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Old 08-13-2009, 11:05 AM
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Default B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

Right i need some help

I have just swapped a b18c4 (uk version of B18C1) into an EK and cannot get it to start
I am stumped into as way

Have have checked all i can think of and it doesn't change anything

- I have fuel and have a spark
- Running a P28 with a B18C4 map
- Have put new earth leads on, cleaned them all up including the thermostat ground.
- New plugs (correct gap), checked leads
- New rotor arm and new dizzy cap
- checked the cam timing (it was out but fixed that)
- played with the ignition timing
- 1 CEL for o2 sensor (away to sort that but it should still start)

Dont know what else to do

Anyone got any ideas ??
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no one got any ideas ?
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youll get more help if you post in the 92-00 civic section but are you using a stock fuel rail with a stock fuel pressure regulator?
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Yes i am using a stock fpr and fuel rail
i have also tried with a frp and set it between 3 and 4 bar but that didnt help

Could a mod please move this into the correct section please
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

Originally Posted by R883
Yes i am using a stock fpr and fuel rail
i have also tried with a frp and set it between 3 and 4 bar but that didnt help

Could a mod please move this into the correct section please
just make another thread in the 92-00 civic section.. there will be alot of helpers there
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do you have all the major grounds wired up? transmission to chasis, head to chasis, and thermostat grounds
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do you have all the major grounds wired up? transmission to chasis, head to chasis, and thermostat grounds
yes and have replaced them all with brand new ones and cleaned them all up
it didnt help at all

i really dont know what else to do
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try a stock ecu

it could be your base map
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

Do you hear the fuel pump?
do tou use OBD2 to OBD1 harness?
did you check Crash saftety switch somewhere on the dash board (can't remenber where)?
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

Originally Posted by LA_HONDAS
try a stock ecu

it could be your base map
The only other ecu i have is for a d16y8 and i assume that will be no use since its for a SOHC

Originally Posted by david974
Do you hear the fuel pump?
do tou use OBD2 to OBD1 harness?
did you check Crash saftety switch somewhere on the dash board (can't remenber where)?
Yeah it primes ok and is pressuring up
and yes i have used a conversion harness

as for the crash saftey switch, i have never heard of it but will go and do a bit of researech on it. Anyone got anymore info on it ?


Cheers for the help so far
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Is it cranking and not starting or are you not even getting any cranking at all?

If it's cranking and not starting yea, i'm thinking ECU or even the Timing is off...
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yeah its cranking over fine
Would it start with the y8 ECU ?
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

Originally Posted by R883
yeah its cranking over fine
Would it start with the y8 ECU ?
Single cam computer? I highly doubt that..

You should try the Stock ECU if anything else..

If not the ECU dude i'm thinking the timings off. You have Fuel, Spark, and Cranking but no Life..see what's good with that timing.
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

i am setting it with the right marks

and i dont have another ecu to try
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yes it start with the y8 ecu
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ok i will try the y8 ecu just to start it
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Not starting with the y8 ECU either

suppose that rules out the ecu
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

Just done a compression test the results are

No. 1 = 202psi
No. 2 = 208psi
No. 3 = 202psi
No. 4 = 202psi

So everything looks fine their
Dont know what else to look at
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CEL now fixed stil not starting
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

did you check for any blown fuses?
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

Originally Posted by SiDonny
did you check for any blown fuses?
yeah i have been through them all with the multi meter
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

How old is the gas in your tank? if it's old maybe it's stale?

is your harness a vtec harness or non-vtec harness?

Troubleshooting for Engine Won't Start...
1. Check Ignition System
2. Fuel Pressure
3. PGM-FI Main Relay
4. Crankshaft Position/Top Dead Center/Cylinder Position sensor circuit/CFK sensor circuit (CKF Sensor isn't used on OBD1 ECUs, so that shouldn't matter, the others will though)
5. Contaminated Fuel
6. Clutch Switch Signal (Should be okay if it cranks over, but wouldn't hurt to check)
7. Check Engine Control Module (ECM) and Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
8. Check Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Sensor
9. Check Air Cleaner
10. Check Barometric pressure (BARO) sensor
11. Check Evaporative emission (EVAP) control

Other Probable Causesfor an engine that will not start:
- Compression
- Intake Air Leakage
- Engine locked up
- Timing Belt
- Starting System
- Overheating
- Battery
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I have noticed a humming noise coming from my ivac anyone got any ideas what it is ?
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Default Re: B18C4 (B18C1) Swap Problems, Wont Start but have Fuel and Spark

try rotating your distributor forward or backwards... also make sure your plugs are in the correct order...

I had this problem on an h23 swap I did...


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