mxpx035

What is the difference in 96+ spec type-r swaps for $3999
and the 98+ spec type-r swap for $4799
i was thinking the 4-1 header but that is not worth $800
so if any one knows i would apreciate the info because if the 98+ has better cams and the header i think i wouuld be better off getting that motor but i just want to justify my money if they are the same i will just get the 96+ spec motor swap

car-toons

Your answer lies in the tranny, LSD vs. Non-LSD I believe. REDTOPROCKS!!

(JON)

besides the 4-1 header you get a tranny that has a 4.7 final drive instead of a 4.4

Kamin

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they both have LSD last i heard.

b00sted93Hatch

Both have lsd. I believe the 4.7 was only offered in 97.

00 FBP ItR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allMotor93Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Both have lsd. I believe the 4.7 was only offered in 97.</TD></TR></TABLE>

98+ come w/ a 4.7 FD along w/ the JDM 4-1 header.

mxpx035

so in other words it is better to get the 98+ spec because of the final drive right
and will the 4.7 make my rpms on the highway lower or higher?

KRiS1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mxpx035 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so in other words it is better to get the 98+ spec because of the final drive right
and will the 4.7 make my rpms on the highway lower or higher?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Higher

mxpx035

do you think that the 96 spec swap would be better because it is 800 cheaper and i can just buy the header or will the 4.7 make that much of a difference. I also do alot of highway driveing and i don't want my gears to be too short.

iplaybass

LSD. LSD? LSD! LSD......

Katman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mxpx035 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you think that the 96 spec swap would be better because it is 800 cheaper and i can just buy the header or will the 4.7 make that much of a difference. I also do alot of highway driveing and i don't want my gears to be too short.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, i'd personally go with the 96 just because you can buy a 4.7fd for under $400 and its a direct replacement the 96's 4.40 final drive. But it sounds like you dont need a 4.7 tranny anyways, as you state you do a lot of highway driving and a 4.7 fd would eat up some of your gas mileage vs. the 96 ITR tranny. The 4-1 is no biggy either.....421 is better anyways imo, you'll have better midrange power with the ITR's 421 manifold vs. a 4-1 header which is all geared towards top-end power.

One other perk of the 98+ ITR engine is that it would have less miles on it vs. the 96 engine.

mxpx035

they all come with lsd right? and in about 6 months i plan on boosting it and building the motor so i think i am going to get the 96 spec i just thought there was a difference in the cams so i would have went 98+ spec

Katman

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All Type-R tranny's do, yes.
oh yeah, there is a slight difference in the camshafts between 95-97 & 98-00 ITR engines. 98+ ITR engines basically have CTR camshafts (3 degress more duration), whereas the 95-97 ITR cams specs have 3 degrees less duration. Just upgrade to CTR cams and you'll be 98 spec in the cam department.

Jon D

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Katman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

All Type-R tranny's do, yes.
oh yeah, there is a slight difference in the camshafts between 95-97 & 98-00 ITR engines. 98+ ITR engines basically have CTR camshafts (3 degress more duration), whereas the 95-97 ITR cams specs have 3 degrees less duration. Just upgrade to CTR cams and you'll be 98 spec in the cam department.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is no such thing as a 95 Type R!!!

Katman

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There is no such thing as a 95 Type R!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

uh, yes there is.
The Japanese Type-R debuted in mid 1995.

Specail Ed

If you want a B18 to boost, don't by a Type-R. First off you can save money by getting a GSR swap as opposed to the Type-R swap. If the perk of getting the Type-R is the LSD, a GSR swap and a Quaife will cost you less. Also, the 4-1 header shouldn't even be a concern if you are going to boost it because you won't even be using that header. The Type-R also has a higher compression ratio which isn't as condusive to boost as the lower ratio in the GSR. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with boosting a Type-R, but that motor is designed as a high reving, naturally aspirated motor. GSR swaps are definitely cheaper and easier to come by, and will probably suit your needs better.

thad

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by car-toons &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your answer lies in the tranny, LSD vs. Non-LSD I believe. REDTOPROCKS!!</TD></TR></TABLE> the 96spec type r had cast exh manifold and std. LSD.
the 98spec had 4-1 tubular manifold (header) and the helical LSD. the 01 ITR had the same cams as the CTR the previous years suffered 3degrees duratation loss on the int cam.

mxpx035

i know people say it is better to start with a gsr but i want the type r tranny lsd which will come installed and i won't have to spend more to have it put in it has a good intake manifold, cams, i can also can sell any parts when i upgrade like the cams and manifold. and it will be fast n/a untill i can save for my boost.

MEANB18

If I remember right there is a small difference in the heads as well between the years. I remember someone talking about this a while ago, something about how the earlier heads flowed better due to being assembled and ported by hand and the newer ones were done by machine? I forget. stupid me.

I wish I could find the post, but there are a million people that have asked this SAME question.