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Old 05-17-2004, 07:41 PM
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I have a friend who has a good knowledge about engines. He owns a fully built 10sec ls/vtec which was built by himself. Im planning to get an engine swap and was originally getting a b18c-r. He tells me that the ctr is more powerful than the itr engine because it has a bigger crankshaft, better pistons, better camshafts, better manifold, and shorter gears than itr. He also can get me the ctr engine for $3.9k with install. What are your opinions about this. Should i get it?
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b16b is not faster then ITR.

its little brother of the ITR

It has no torque. good motor it revs so fast nothing comes close
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i think it depends on the type of application u plan on using ur car for....i heard the the CTR is an autocrossers dream engine
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itr!!
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B16B is a destroked B18C (R).

You decide.
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He thinks CTR > ITR?? And he has a 10sec LSVTEC??? HHmmm...

Anyway.. ITR over the CTR anyday of the week.
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ctr > itr? ergh. yeah. i think he just doesn't want you to be a threat.
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does your friend have timeslips?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX_VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He thinks CTR &gt; ITR?? And he has a 10sec LSVTEC??? HHmmm...

Anyway.. ITR over the CTR anyday of the week. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Default Re: b16b or b18c-r (JayDieM_ej1)

your friend is leading you astray, i suggest you find another car buddy. anyways, i'm pretty sure the b16b is nice to have, but the b18c has more tq/hp
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HypeR0070 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ctr &gt; itr? ergh. yeah. i think he just doesn't want you to be a threat. </TD></TR></TABLE>ummm i dont htink he will be a threat fo as long as he has a 10 sec car
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if it aint a type R it anit a tight car

remember that
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Ummm...seems to me your friend just through some misguiding facts out of his a$$. There is no way a ctr is "faster" pr creates more hp/tq then the itr. Doesnt add up. So go tell him that he lied to and that you want to see his time slips if he still wants to be your friend, cause he prob. lied about taht 10sec ls/vtec car.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bossman032 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if it aint a type R it anit a tight car

remember that </TD></TR></TABLE>you tard,both motors are form type r's
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rocco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you tard,both motors are form type r's</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahh ok.

it was a joke retard

go read a book newbie
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spend the extra money and get an ITR. you're gonna want to stroke that B16b after you drive it. try to get a 98+ jdm, higher compression and 4.7 FD.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bossman032 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if it aint a type R it anit a tight car

remember that </TD></TR></TABLE>


bahahahhaahaaa!!!


B16B's are fun engines and you can make them pretty quick with some big cam upgrades. RyanR's B16B is a good example...but for the money factor, you're better off with an ITR engine, more bang ..err torque for your buck.
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Default Re: b16b or b18c-r (Katman)

I heard that using itr crank and rods will make it practically an itr, but a bit faster. Is this true? How much do you guys think i need to spend to do this if true. Is it worth it?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JayDieM_ej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I heard that using itr crank and rods will make it practically an itr, but a bit faster. Is this true? How much do you guys think i need to spend to do this if true. Is it worth it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, when you do that its called 'stroking' and yes it "will be faster" and more torquier. But its more cost effective if you buy an ITR engine from the beginning rather than stroke a B16B to 1.8L later on down the line..
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CTr is not faster than an itr. Just like bossman said its the little brother i got one I am happy but you better get ready for the ctr hate your gonna get if you choose to buy it. But my friend you will stomp on us gsr and jdm gsr motors with good driving.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackcruzan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your friend is leading you astray, i suggest you find another car buddy. anyways, i'm pretty sure the b16b is nice to have, but the b18c has more tq/hp </TD></TR></TABLE>
I hope your talkin b18c as in type r cause i had to stomp out a cat with a usdm gsr with bolt ons the other day, it was such a shame.
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if your only goin to be doin straight line driving get the ITR. the b16b revs fast as ****(very very good for auto-X), and with some jun cams and titanium springs you can take that bitch to 10k all day long. GO BIG OR GO HOME!! get the ITR
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikebish86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your only goin to be doin straight line driving get the ITR. the b16b revs fast as ****(very very good for auto-X), and with some jun cams and titanium springs you can take that bitch to 10k all day long. GO BIG OR GO HOME!! get the ITR</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea go big or go home. Thats just like telling a person that bought a 330ci bimmer to drop another 15,000 down and go with the m3. He is gonna have to come up with at least a 1000-1200 more for a 98 itr. Now if you can find a 96 itr go for it. I was goona get a 96 spec itr from password but they were out so i got the ctr instead. I think you can get the 96 itr for 4000.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by japspec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I hope your talkin b18c as in type r cause i had to stomp out a cat with a usdm gsr with bolt ons the other day, it was such a shame.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was...........
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackcruzan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I was...........</TD></TR></TABLE>
My fault thought you were talking us spec gsr.
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