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Old 03-03-2008, 06:32 PM
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chip your ecu because it is still running off of the D16z6's fuel maps/ignition timing and this is why your rev limiter is set at 7400
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alright thanks... what kind of base maps are used for the b16's?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nxvictim &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... what kind of base maps are used for the b16's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The OBD-1 B16A runs on a P30 map...

You probably shouldn't be running your B16 on a stock P28 since the two motors have very different fuel requirements. The B16 is capable of inhaling much more air than the D16 which means it needs more fuel.

At best, the B16 comes with larger injectors which means the stock P28 program is simply running it rich and loosing lots of power and clogging your cat.

At worst the B16 has the same size injectors as the D16 and the P28 map is starving it of fuel causing it to run lean and detonate (which may blow the engine). And since the P28 doesn't utilize the knock sensor on the B16, the ECU won't know to retard the timing if detonation is present...

Get that ECU chipped...
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Wow, that car does like to eat up that gas as soon as i put in that fuel pump. Hopefully you get it chipped soon and keep me updated with it.
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yeah.. it sounded like it was limiting out too early.. then i got my new tach hooked up and it was doing just that.. and im not really familiar with ecu's and **** so thanks for your help.. can i get the p30 map put inmy ecu?
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also where are the best vtec transitions at? cause im gonna have it limit at 8400 and i was thinkin about getting the transtion at 4400 but im not 100% sure.
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4400 is too low. You want it around 5300 or even later. If you switch too soon, you will be losing torque...

Yes you can have the P30 base-map put in your P28, but your going to have to have someone chip it for you. Contact Kenji as he's really good, reputable and has quick turnaround (most of the time).

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1300672

PS: Just make sure you only run premium fuel as the P28 ECU cannot utilize the knock sensor no matter what map is installed. This means it won't retard ignition timing for bad gasoline...
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alright thanks.. i might be getting on from a shop around where i live.. and i have been running 93
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i got a skunk2 chipped p06 running a itr map and its runs amazing now.. thanks for your guy's help.
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Why would you run an ITR map on a B16? That's still not optimal...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why would you run an ITR map on a B16? That's still not optimal...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. looks like he did not even read that big paragraph you wrote him. idiots
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Exactly. looks like he did not even read that big paragraph you wrote him. idiots</TD></TR></TABLE>

It happens...
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im sorry i asked for your guy's help.. my bad.. the map runs way better than before... so it did something right.. when i get my **** im gonna get it tuned then everything will be nice.. sorry for wasting your precious "time"
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Don't get mad at us because you asked for our advice and then didn't listen to it...
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the ecu was from a shop and was pre-based.. so yeah.. when i get my cams, intake mani, headers and other **** im gonna get it tuned so its not like its a permanent base..
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and plus honda's use a speed density system.. so the map and o2 are helpin the ecu adjust the a/f anyways
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