Chugger

i have a 92 hatch and was wondering what modifications was done to the Blacksheep(rip) i ve read it somehwere but cant find it on any of the sites ff, jdmhparts, etc i think back in the day you had hx wheels didnt you i thought i read that also i mean engine mods i have found one a b17 that is for 800 dollars for motor, tranny, ecy, axels, shhift linkeage etc it has a lot of miles though like 120, 000 or something i was thinking of going with ctr pistons, ctr cams, valve springs, port flow retainers etc you get the picture!!!!!!
thanks
lata
chris

Katman

Chris..
if you wanna drop a B17 into your EG...you can only use the longblock, sell the B17 cable tranny for a good $$ and buy yourself a Hydro B16 or ITR trans. If you want to slap some CTR pistons into a B17A block, it's not hard. But I suggest you take the block to a machine shop and have them check out the condition of the B17 your about to purchase and find out if it you can just lightly hone it and use standard bore pistons or go oversize. Don't forget that you need to modify the B17A rods to fit any 'R' piston. Approx. 1mm needs to be shaved off each side of the rod at the wrist pin area in order for CTR piston to work with the B17 rod.
Here's a pic to help show what I mean:



If you can get the B17A ECU (P61) with your engine, that's good to, having it reprogrammed is a good idea if you're at least going to run 'R' cams

You can't reuse the axles...well you can with 1, but I suggest you sell the B17 axles and get 94+ integra axles w/intermediate shaft.

You'll need 94+ Integra engine mounts...

email me if you need more help...

Chugger

how much do trannys go for any way id rather have a b16 sir2 hydro with the lsd i think the itr tranny is prob a little too steep for me and about the mounts couldnt i just get a hasport kit would that work with the cable to hydro kit or would it be a lost cause i also have a p28 which ecu would be better to eb chipped
thanks again

Jackson

get a hydro tranny. use 94-01 integra mounts.

Katman

92+ B16/LSD trannies range from $800-1000
ITR/CTR trannies range from $1000-1300

...thing is the b16 LSD tranny has the same gear ratios as a JDM 95.5-97 & US 97-98/00-01 ITR tranny. The LSD is the where both trannies differ - ITR has an Helical LSD while the B16/LSD's are non-helical but gear type.

You can go the HASport cable-hydro conversion way, it's up to you.
But, I highly suggest you go with a hydro transmission. A cable tranny's synchros tend to go out faster than a hydro's. Hydro's are more reliable in the long run, plus you can stick with OEM mounts which are cheaper than aftermarket mounts....but it's all up to you.

Whether you have a P28 or P61 ECU, it don't matter -- either ecu will act/work the same if running the same program, such as the Mugen program.

Chugger

thanks for all the help man i really appreciate it now i just gotta wait for teh dude to get teh motor out of the damn car
again thanks for the info
lata
chris
ps: still waitin to see the updated ff squad its gonna be sweet

ATYPR

NO!!! Don't sell the GSR trans. Get the Hasport mount kit for the cable b16a setup. The gear ratio in that trans is great and you'll save some money. I used the GSR trans in my CX. My b17 had 120K miles, 145psi comp. and I ran a 9.5 in the 1/8 at 75mph (about mid 14's in the 1/4).

jetli6969

hey while we are at this, i have a b17a going into an eg. i was wondering if the clutch is the same. im using a 95 gsr tranny but wondering if i need to change out the clutch??

90accord1

you can use any bseries presure plate but i beleive you need a a cable clutch disc and not hydro as the splines are different.

RyanR

On the 92-93 integra's they have the large spline just like the 94-up trannies. So basically all 92-up Integra's use the same clutch kit. The only difference is that the throw out bearing is different in the 92-93 than the 94-up.

Suprdave

Why are 92-93 Throw-Outs different?

I'm pretty sure all Big Spline Throwouts are Identical.

Suprdave