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Old 08-11-2002, 03:03 PM
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Default *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it?

ok here is my problem....

i got a third gear grind problem when i shift in the high rpms...either its...

1. the shift linkage is bad and that i should try a 99-00 Si shift linkage because i was using a gsr linkage
-so i did that and the grind never went away
2. the other problem he said could be worn out motor mounts (the lower block and tranny mounts) that caused the motor to move causing the tranny to grind....
-i am going to order the motor mount insert kit on monday....

but i just wanted to know what u guys did about your grinding gears....if any of you guys had this problem, please let me kno wat your experiences were...thanks


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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (kidkombo)

Well, your shiftlinkage should have nothing to do with it.
I'm running GSR shiftlinkage with no problems at all.

Could it be your clutch fluid? Or could it be your clutch altogether?
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (fowler)

mounts?
ive never heard of that
im using a gsr linkage, works fine with my b16
you know its possible you just have a bum syncro.

make SURE your using honda manual transmission fluid
it could be related but highly dobutfull.
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (KAMiN)

mounts?
ive never heard of that
im using a gsr linkage, works fine with my b16
you know its possible you just have a bum syncro.

make SURE your using honda manual transmission fluid
it could be related but highly dobutfull.
yeah, only honda Tranny fluid
Old 08-11-2002, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (On Point EK!!!!!!!!)

get your tranny rebuilt, i think thats all you can do.
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (C5_ALLMOTOR)

its probably your synchros in the transmission...my car would grind bad at high rpms also so i just took it back to the dealer and it was in fact the synchros ...so ya hope this helps
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (fowler)

Well, your shiftlinkage should have nothing to do with it.
I'm running GSR shiftlinkage with no problems at all.

Could it be your clutch fluid? Or could it be your clutch altogether?
the clutch fluid is fine, but how can a bad clutch make your gear grind? (sorry im new to this kinda stuff...tranny wise)

by the sound of it the installer kept your b16 tranny and left the ger one in
no you can tell the tranny i got is different, i saw my old tranny next to my car....believe me i can see the difference between the two, and plus my rpms going 60 is around 3300 rpms....

yeah, only honda Tranny fluid
if its like normal motor oil, can that cause the problem? just a thought....so it would make a big difference with non-honda tranny fluid?

anyways, thanks for all the input from everyone i appreciate it, ill keep you all posted on my tranny.

peace
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (kidkombo)

no you can tell the tranny i got is different, i saw my old tranny next to my car....believe me i can see the difference between the two, and plus my rpms going 60 is around 3300 rpms....

u can see the difference visualy?? They both should look the same
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (On Point EK!!!!!!!!)

i know they are supposed to look the same, but it has a vin tag on it, and the ****** that had the tranny before me mexi chromed it so its hella brighter than my old one.....
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (On Point EK!!!!!!!!)

^^^^^^^^whoops i forgot to include this on the post above


no you can tell the tranny i got is different, i saw my old tranny next to my car....believe me i can see the difference between the two, and plus my rpms going 60 is around 3300 rpms....


u can see the difference visualy?? They both should look the same
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (kidkombo)

Could it be your clutch fluid? Or could it be your clutch altogether?

the clutch fluid is fine, but how can a bad clutch make your gear grind? (sorry im new to this kinda stuff...tranny wise)
Acutally, I dunno. When mine was grinding, that's what everyone told me.

Could be you just have bad luck
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (fowler)


Could be you just have bad luck

huh.....tru dat! thanks for the help anyways.....
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (kidkombo)

The problems internal. you need somone to open it up and replace 3rd gear assembly witch comes with the syncro ring.While your in there replace main shaft bearing and seal.fill with only honda mtf.we charge about $800.no need to pay for on overhaul for things you don't need.
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mine will grind 2nd/ 3rd/ 4th. if im not careful.
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (djay86)



mine will grind 2nd/ 3rd/ 4th. if im not careful.
of course it will grind if your not careful....the thing is is that i tested it by driving the car up to 7500, then carefully pressed the clutch all the way down, and then slowly put it in gear....then it grinded, a grinding tranny shouldnt grind if you put it in really slowly, but mine does.....( i think, please correct me if im wrong )

thanks for the input
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (kidkombo)

its the synchros mayn i bet you two starburts.....the red ones
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (CiRcUiTsi)

Do you have a short shift? mine does and i grind in 3rd too! maybe the bushings are fkd up....mine is a cheap *** short shift...apc! haahah but yea its coming back out.
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (Lynx02)

Do you have a short shift? mine does and i grind in 3rd too! maybe the bushings are fkd up....mine is a cheap *** short shift...apc! haahah but yea its coming back out.

i dont have a shortshifter...i have the motor mount inserts but i still havent installed them....any of you know how to do it? ( i meant as in how do you go about putting them on, do you have to remove the upper mounts to release the load on the lower mounts? etc..etc...etc...)

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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (kidkombo)

I would check the rear motor mounts, my civic have a broken one and it grinds when I do the hi rev shifts. What I did is I installed an ploy mount insert and it went alway.

HTH
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I would check the rear motor mounts, my civic have a broken one and it grinds when I do the hi rev shifts. What I did is I installed an ploy mount insert and it went alway.

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thats what i thought....anyways thanks for the input, and im gonna im you about the head......payce
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (kidkombo)

dammit!!!!!!!

i got the lower torque mounts installed and they didnt make a difference...i havent installed the rear mount because i have to pull the motor out to do that so.....im still stuck with the damn third gear grind....

i want to know how a clutch can be involved in making the gear grind...any input would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (kidkombo)

synchros
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (CiRcUiTsi)

damn dood, it scares me when people constantly say that, because that costs money to fix....well see when i get a clutch, it might help out and also when i get my motor mount rear insert installed.....
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (kidkombo)

with a clutch being the problem i guess it just wouldn't engage all the way and make you grind like the cable ain't set right, but my best diagnoses of that would be the syncros. I know that is a pain in the *** in my other car i didn't even bother with rebuilding it, took to much time away from me(i would have done it my self). I just bought a reman tranny for it. Never had any problems with it but i blew the motor up 2 months later.
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Default Re: *THIRD GEAR GRIND!!!! how do i get rid of it? (99blackcivicSi)

yup i have the same problem but in 2nd. well mine only happens when i go around turns. i went to acura (cause i have an ls) and they said syncro. well they wanted 800 so i am thinking of letting it basiclly blow and get a type r tranny...
what do you guys think should i do type r or gsr or si tranny


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