EF8SIR

Whats up everybody?
right now i have a b16 in my 88 crx si but the problem is....IT"S SLOW!!!! after the install i found out that the motor was originally a automatic which is only 150 hp and really bad cam profiles and single valve springs on the intake side! not to mention i bought a tranny from a guy that said it was a 92-93 GSR tranny but it ended up being a LS TRANNY!!! so right now my B16 powered crx on 17's with full interior pulls 16.0....
very dissapointing!
now my friend has a very clean and very strong LS motor he wants to sell.....he will give me the motor, ECU, and installation for 700$ plus my chipped ecu(mugen program by KATMAN) they said i should be in the high 14's with this motor ez since it is really strong. and since i am going to turbo my car i heard the LS is a way better turbo platform then the B16, since i already have the LS tranny.

WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS DO??
WILL I BE HAPPY WITH THE LS?

I AM VERY DISSAPOINTED SINCE MY ZC WAS FASTER THEN MY B16!
and later i might go with a vtec head if i really miss the VTEC that much!
THANKS A LOT!
EF8SIR

Adam.

Definitely ditch the b16, 'specially since you got basically ripped for it. And believe me i have a friend with a stripped LS/VTEC in an 88 crx/si and that poo poo moves.

EF8SIR

well i got the b16 for dirt cheap...i got a whole hb with the b16 and skunk2 coil overs and exhaust and wiring etc. for 600$, but yah the LS is looking very tempting! any with a LS in their rex please give me some info on it!
thanks!
ef8sir

Hanson

the b18b is a much better turbo platform. the stock lower compression will allow more boost, and the longer gears of the ls tranny allow for extened periods of full boost.

HaUTSaauce

LS

EF8SIR

yah the b18b is getting real tempting since my b16 well......BLOWS ***!!

EFing8

umm... i have a set of cams out of my b16 (stock cams) that I will let you have for almost nothing. e-mail me if interested

zorzie@mts.net

http://www3.mb.sympatico.ca/~zorzie

Kalokohan

Hmmmmm, 1.6 or 1.8 which one to choose. No brainer, "no replacement for displacement." B16's are overrated and underpowered.

deMad10

Get rid of it. I knew a guy who swapped his LS for a B16 and his car wasn't any faster. Plus with all the bad luck with the engine you have I would say scrap it. Plus you said it only made 150 horses and had a crappy head.

JDM Style EK

I don't know why anyone buys a B16. I Have one, but it came stock in my Si. Go the route of the LS. That's what's going into my EK. More power has been cranked out of an LS motor than the GSR and the B16. Get an LS swap for about $1,300 throw on a 100 shot of NOS (yes you can easily do that with a stock LS) and you'll be running some low times.

therealciviczc

The only thing about the LS is the lack of REVs. When I drive my friends LS vs my ZC, I end up hitting the rev limiter every time (thrills him I'm sure). It feels like it wants to keep reving, but it won't!

ineedboostbad

How do you tell if the motor was previously an automatic?

JDM Style EK

Get rid of the rev limiter then....

ImportechPerformance

QUOTE!!
"More power has been cranked out of an LS motor than the GSR and the B16."


NOT!!

Yes the LS is a very good and strong motor and great for turbocharging but to say that is a lil outlandish.

owen_the_soyboy

well beef up that B16 valvetrain, chip your ECU and get an ITR tranny with LSD.

simple.

dohc_Cx

like art keeps saying, keep it simple, do some more research, and work with what you got..

SpooN Man

get some itr retainers and springs. Make sure you dump the crappy auto cams. even the manual cams sucked in the early b16a's Get some new SI or itr cams, and a S1 tranny. you will be happy. The ls tranny is f&cking your times

dohcsideSi

you can tell if the motor was auto if you had the vin # but not sure how you could do it other wise except for parts matching. def drop the b16 (a beat one @ that), you already have the right tranny for boost and the ls is easier (read cheaper) to tune with the 9.2 comp and more displacement. i've seen a couple ls turbo's put down just as much power down as a b16 turbo's (bolt on kits).

Kalokohan

Agrees.

hybrider

"get some itr retainers and springs. Make sure you dump the crappy auto cams. even the manual cams sucked in the early b16a's Get some new SI or itr cams, and a S1 tranny. you will be happy. The ls tranny is f&cking your times"


***

exactly.................

wuhungsixxx

yup!....why go throught the trouble of swapping out the motor...just get the right cams and valve train...go get a different tranny with shorter gears too unless u wanna boost later...i have a auto gsr and right now it probably pulls as hard as a strong b16a but i would never think about trading it for a b18a/b...get better cams, u know ur gonna do it anyways

jdm_latino

LS+TURBO.UMMMMMMMMMM

SPOCK

upgrade the valve train and boost. b16 turbo is the best turbo setup. cant get a better rod-stroke ratio. this set up will boost high and last longer than the ls turbo. or you could keep the vtec head and put it on the ls block, then turbo(not recommended). the b16 has more Potential than the ls. if you can find one get a jdm ys1 b16 tranny. best gear ratio for race and street and has lsd. you are limited without vtec. gs-r has more torque than the ls and has a smaller displacement. dont Underestimate the power of vtec

JDM Style EK

"Yes the LS is a very good and strong motor and great for turbocharging but to say that is a lil outlandish."


Outlandish?..... yes
True?...... yes

Yellow Dragon

LS + Turbo =