skateboard_ej8

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cringe

A D NOH

I like the new hatchback.

Hatchbacks are the best cars Honda ever made.

In 10 years when the hate wears off, people will appreciate these just like they did with the 1992-1995 hatchback.

Still not even close to a sports car.

Even the Honda Civic R Type model is not a sports car and it beats real sports cars.

Top 10 Cars the 2017 Honda Civic Type R Beats on the Nurburgring » AutoGuide.com News

Mark

What the **** did I just watch?

Todd00

I don't mind the new hatchbacks. I really don't. I just mind when people try to make them out to be something that they are not. Other (more-seasoned) journalists have commented that this car has the Honda mojo back. But this pair took it way over the top and called it a "sports car", which it absolutely is not.

RoadFly looks like the old Top Gear compared to this video and Ross could be a Jewish Richard Hammond.

3rdDrawerDown

Are miatas sports cars?
Have you driven one yet? It has V6 torque. Its very un civic like when you nail it. The Type R will have 300, the Si. 200.

They will sell over 300k a year, not sure they can even make more than that.

3rdDrawerDown

So its better than a sports car? That always been my take on civics. I just bought one, my first new Honda, i love it. The hatch is back! And its built in Swindon!

solsisters

Miatas are hairdressers car.

I'm happy for the v6 torque.

NOT

90hatch94dsm

Does the Civic come with a bespoke wooden dash?

K.F14

what the **** is this ****? @ the OP

usdm420

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And typical 4-cylinder acceleration as shown by the 1/4 mile runs.

Dead CIVIC

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where in So Cal are those twisties?

ND40oz

177 ft-lbs is V6 torque? When's the last time a Honda sold a V6 with those figures, the C27 in the '97 Accord?

usdm420

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Everywhere. Angeles Crest, Azusa Canyon, and plenty of others.

AZ_CIVIC

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In my opinion Miatas are not, however I am a believer that a lot of cars can be made to go fast and be bad ***. I think with today's technology you can easily make a reliable 300hp platform. Choosing to design a sporty Honda and being happy with 180hp is pointless, especially in a car that is probably 3K pounds plus.

Oh and 160 or 70 lbs of torque is nothing LOL.

ZTwentyH8

Can we keep the '16s out of GDD?

EG-Kaos

"SEXUALLY AROUSED"

Todd00

Since when does HP define a sports car? A Miata is *the* definition of a sports car, regardless of whether it is "fast" or not. And I put fast in quotes because 0-60 in 5.8 seconds is nothing to sneeze at.

tron_

Lollin @ calling a Miata the definition of a sports car.

If you have to ask if a 2017 Honda Civic hatch is a sports car, chances are like 6/5 of your senses aren't working.

Todd00

You people need to look up what a sports car actually is before you reply.

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Mazda-M...ly-a-sportscar

A sports car (or sportscar) is a small, usually two seater, two door automobile designed for spirited performance and nimble handling.[2]
[3] According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the first known use of the term was in 1928.[2]Sports cars may be spartan or luxurious, but high maneuverability and minimum weight are requisite.[4] They may be equipped for racing, "especially an aerodynamically shaped one-passenger or two-passenger vehicle having a low center of gravity and steering and suspension designed for precise control at high speeds

213374U

GFY, fr

tron_

Totally what comes to mind when people think of "sports car". Sike.

.Beaver

Still a sports car by definition.

CBXweb

When you don't speak up for your culture someone else will.

ActiveAero

Yes because they're underrated. These Civic's are putting down nearly 190lb/ft at the wheels. A TSX V6 puts down around 210-215 wheel torque. Previous J32 V6 cars put down around 185-200lb/ft to the wheels.

So yeah actually they do put down pretty close to J-series torque numbers of just a few years ago and based on torque to weight figures the Civic has more relative torque. Per Motortrend's dyno test.

AZ_CIVIC

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What is that a 3rd gear dyno pull?