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Turbo JDM Prelude Type S
Hi there, finally i decided to Turbo my 5th Gen type S.
I went down to the shop to get a quote and to get more info about this mod. A few thing i need t clear up b4 going ahead hope bors here can help. I want to run a low boost turbo (0.5-0.7) On my Type S stock internals. I would like to ask , do i really need to change my injectors? Is intercooler really a must? And will these setup affect my ATTS, and if it does how do i resolve this problems? Dear Bros and Gurus of Honda Tech pls help me. |
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http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...26&phot_key=89
will this fit my JDM Prelude? Anybody using this kit? Any good? |
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That kit will work. Looks like its got decent parts. Not a bad price for a complete kit either.
You need to do more research first. But no, you don't HAVE to run an intercooler, but I would. Injectors are usually a must. You might be able to keep em stock at VERY low boost levels, but they will be running at a very high duty cycle which isn't good. Best to just upgrade. And you will also need a tune. |
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My biggest worry will be the ATTS.... how do i tackle that issue properly....
will running a small boost like 0.5 affect the ATTS big time? |
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Depends on your wheel torque.
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It's hard to say how much boost until you have trouble with the ATTS, could have problems running even .5 bar.
I'm wondering why you chose the h22 type s of all motors to turbo. It's probaly the least favorable of any to go forced induction. The H series have weaker internals and the type s h22 has very high compression. If you want to go run .7 or .8 on a stock b16/gsr I would say ok, if you wanted to do the same on a usdm h22 I would say probaly not the best idea, and for the type-s I would steer away from it, unless your going all the way.. internals and etc. Which technically wouldn't make it a type s anymore for the most part. Honestly, I think you should get an intercooler and injectors. At that point you will have to tune the piss out of it for low boost to be reliable and not have the atts get angry. IMO spending all that money on the turbo kit seems like a waste when you cant even turn the boost up all that high. Also think about if you do get the kit and the atts does go out, then what? You cant just bring the kit back. Seems like a money pit. Furthermore, it's obviously your choice. I strongly suggest reading up on turbo kits more in depth. Go google turbo h22 and see what others have said about it. And remember, most of them are talking about the milder h22, not the high compression type s you have. p.s. If I had a prelude with a badass jdm type s and wanted turbo, I would sell the type s for what $5000? Go get a regular h22 with LSD for $2300 and put $2700 plus the $1700 I wanted to initially spend on the kit towards a better, reliable turbo h22. |
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Originally Posted by blackdelslo
(Post 39992955)
It's hard to say how much boost until you have trouble with the ATTS, could have problems running even .5 bar.
I'm wondering why you chose the h22 type s of all motors to turbo. It's probaly the least favorable of any to go forced induction. The H series have weaker internals and the type s h22 has very high compression. If you want to go run .7 or .8 on a stock b16/gsr I would say ok, if you wanted to do the same on a usdm h22 I would say probaly not the best idea, and for the type-s I would steer away from it, unless your going all the way.. internals and etc. Which technically wouldn't make it a type s anymore for the most part. Honestly, I think you should get an intercooler and injectors. At that point you will have to tune the piss out of it for low boost to be reliable and not have the atts get angry. IMO spending all that money on the turbo kit seems like a waste when you cant even turn the boost up all that high. Also think about if you do get the kit and the atts does go out, then what? You cant just bring the kit back. Seems like a money pit. Furthermore, it's obviously your choice. I strongly suggest reading up on turbo kits more in depth. Go google turbo h22 and see what others have said about it. And remember, most of them are talking about the milder h22, not the high compression type s you have. p.s. If I had a prelude with a badass jdm type s and wanted turbo, I would sell the type s for what $5000? Go get a regular h22 with LSD for $2300 and put $2700 plus the $1700 I wanted to initially spend on the kit towards a better, reliable turbo h22. |
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
(Post 39992875)
Depends on your wheel torque.
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Originally Posted by nemoyan
(Post 39993231)
Depends on wheel torque.... how much will push the ATTS bonkers.
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if you are cheeping out this soon... This wont end well....
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How many more horses will the engine gain with this turbo kit?
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Originally Posted by HondaKyle
(Post 39999428)
if you are cheeping out this soon... This wont end well....
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Let me say something about wat i want from my setup.
I think of running low boost like 0.4-0.5 just to give the car a nice torky feel. Kinda like drivng a light preaSSURE TURBO sAAB. Thats the feel i like.. not really smoking other on the rd type power. |
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HI got a stupid question... Alot say u cant go over 250hp due to ATTS.
May I ask , 250 is BHp or Whp??:scared: |
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Don't concern yourself with the ATTS. The car will still drive normally if it isn't functioning. I also don't recommend turbo'ing a TypeS. It's too nice of an engine to be messed with by a noob.
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
(Post 40052213)
Don't concern yourself with the ATTS. The car will still drive normally if it isn't functioning. I also don't recommend turbo'ing a TypeS. It's too nice of an engine to be messed with by a noob.
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
(Post 40052213)
The car will still drive normally if it isn't functioning.
Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
(Post 40052213)
The car will still drive normally if it isn't functioning.
Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
(Post 40052213)
The car will still drive normally if it isn't functioning.
Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
(Post 40052213)
The car will still drive normally if it isn't functioning.
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Ok anyone know the difference between a h23 and H22
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Originally Posted by kingofgtmo
(Post 40058974)
Ok anyone know the difference between a h23 and H22
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lol just seeing if anyone could tell me because i'm thinking about scrappin my 98 for my new project my 93 4ws. my 98 is way to heavy and a hear alot of problems with the 4ws unit. so i'm either going to ripout the 4ws, junk the 93 and just making a 97 delsol w/ h23 because i have the engine and a del sol with a fired engine(fire recovery)
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Get your own thread.
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After deep consideration i went ahead with my plan . It is goona take 1 week for my workshop to finish the job. And abit more time to fine tune everything.
Wish my luck guys.. hope everything pans out the way i want it to. Make report as soon as it is done up. |
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Spend the money on and all motor setup! Its looks like you were going to buy a good turbo kit. Build the head get and hondata and injectors and tune and you might just rip on that turbo kit.
That engine is too nice to go turbo! |
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Originally Posted by cdubs777
(Post 40120718)
Spend the money on and all motor setup! That engine is too nice to go turbo!
To OP, do not just pay someone to do this build, but rather learn to do it yourself. What happends when you get the car back all together and later down the road something breaks off or stops working ? .. now what ? .. You going to bring the car back to the shop and have them take $ 500.00 more from you to diagnose a small problem and fix. If you're asking questions such as is intercooler a must or if upgraded injectors are a must, then you should really take a step backwards and think about this. |
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Hi Guys. I finally went to do it.... Light Pressure TC!!! And I love it!!!!!:P
Below is the Dyno Result. Running a 0.7 Boost. http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w...8-085848-1.jpg |
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There are a few blotches on the Dyno paper.... sorry ... accidently touch it with my wet hands....:scared:
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just my recommendation even if your running low boost id suggest getting lower compression pistons.
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Originally Posted by kornkid21792
(Post 40217397)
just my recommendation even if your running low boost id suggest getting lower compression pistons.
May i ask is it possible to strengthen the internals but still remain high COMP?? |
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The curves don't look right.
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if u want hight compression get high compression pistons or leave ur stock ones in
but if your turboing u want to lower the compression. for the safety of your engine and your self |
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
(Post 40217830)
The curves don't look right.
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Originally Posted by R666_EK
(Post 40217947)
I thought so too. Drops too much around 5500 rpm
How to rectify?? Wat causes it?? Bad tuning?/ |
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Originally Posted by kornkid21792
(Post 40217846)
if u want hight compression get high compression pistons or leave ur stock ones in
but if your turboing u want to lower the compression. for the safety of your engine and your self |
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Originally Posted by nemoyan
(Post 40220343)
May i ask.... wats the problem???
How to rectify?? Wat causes it?? Bad tuning?/ |
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Originally Posted by 210lude
(Post 40231308)
yes.. a bad tune could case that ...also quick question is ur exhaust restricting flow ..cuz at 5500 there should be very little drop off if any ..which leads me to the exahust question ..
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Thats not helping your case. Get a 3" all the way back and please for the love of the earth put a high-flow cat on it.
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Originally Posted by jlude90
(Post 40251556)
Thats not helping your case. Get a 3" all the way back and please for the love of the earth put a high-flow cat on it.
As for 3 inch well that is a project for a later stage. Hey guys i know the original Type S cams are not optimal for turbo setup. May i ask, wat Turbo cams in the market now are good ? Most probably will do the Turbo Cams with the 3 inch at a later stage.:hugs: |
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Go to the FI section and start reading. You're asking to be spoon-fed tons of information.
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
(Post 40269103)
Go to the FI section and start reading. You're asking to be spoon-fed tons of information.
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