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Revi 01-29-2007 08:56 AM

Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo.....
 
Mods i know this is wheel/tire related but after doing some searching all the info im finding out is for tiny 15" or 14" rims with 205 tires. There is just not enough Prelude people out there sharing drag strip wheel/tire set-ups, but if you guys feel this thread still doesnt belong here you can move it, i was just hopping to get Prelude related info.

Anyways here is the deal, im currently in the market for a better wheel/tire combo just for drag racing purposes. I have decided on a 16"x7 with a 225/50/16 tire or a 215 if a 225 wont fit. After doing some searches i have found out the most favorite tire options are the Falken Azenis, BFG T/A Drag Radials and the Kumho V710. Well here are my problems:

1. I cant find the BFGs Drag Radials in the 16" size im looking for, hell i dont think they even make a 16" tire of this style.

2. The Kumho has a 225/50ZR/16 tire but i have read they have a stiffer side wall compared to the BFGs, plus they are $166 a piece! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmileo.gif

3. The Azenis are now the Rt-615 but they seem to be directed more towards autoX since they have stiff side walls.

I would love to put a set of BFGs Drag Radials on 16x7" Rota Slipstreams for the strip but i cant find the size i want. I have noticed the sizes are available for 17" rims but i would like to keep the 16" stock size.

What are some of the better tires out there you guys run at the drag strip with what size rim? Im staying away from full M/T slicks because im still running OEM driveshafts and i dont want to get towed home.

A Blue Lude 01-29-2007 09:04 AM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (Revi)
 
Well, you could try 15" wheels.

Revi 01-29-2007 09:09 AM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (A Blue Lude)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A Blue Lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, you could try 15" wheels. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I would have to see if those would even clear the caliper? I would like to stay with a 16" wheel though. Ive read a 245 size tire would fit a 16x7" rim and Nitto makes a 245/50/16 NT 555r Drag Radial tire in that size. Would that size tire fit in a prelude?

A Blue Lude 01-29-2007 09:11 AM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (Revi)
 
A 15" wheel can clear the caliper.

245/50R16 is WAY bigger than stock. Beyond murdering your gearing, I can't imagine it fitting under the fender easily, and who knows how well it would even fit in the wheel well.

I wouldn't use 225/50 if I could avoid it, much less 245/50.

budget 01-29-2007 09:27 AM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (Revi)
 
i run usdm ITR wheels with 225/50/15 bfg drag radials

Revi 01-29-2007 09:35 AM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (budget)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by budget &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i run usdm ITR wheels with 225/50/15 bfg drag radials</TD></TR></TABLE>

That sounds good, what width rim are the ITRs? 15x7"?

budget 01-29-2007 09:37 AM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (Revi)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Revi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That sounds good, what width rim are the ITRs? 15x7"?</TD></TR></TABLE>

6" or 6.5" i forgot

TDCTyler 01-29-2007 12:18 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (Revi)
 
surprisingly stock shafts on preludes can take a beating. I want to run my car in the springtime at the track with drag radials.
last year there was a 500whp prelude with stock tranny and shafts running m/t slicks and he ran all day no issues
btw: with suspension and traction bars plus the drag radials you guys think i can hit 12.9?


Modified by spOolin97 at 4:29 PM 1/29/2007

E-Money 01-29-2007 12:52 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (spOolin97)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spOolin97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">surprisingly stock shafts on preludes can take a beating. I want to run my car in the springtime at the track with drag radials.
last year there was a 500whp prelude with stock tranny and shafts running m/t slicks and he ran all day no issues
btw: with suspension and traction bars plus the drag radials you guys think i can hit 12.9?


Modified by spOolin97 at 4:29 PM 1/29/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

whats your setup to try and run a 12.9???

to OP, i would try and find a RT615 or BFG on a 205/60/15 or 195/60/15

bluedlude 01-29-2007 01:28 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (E-Money)
 
looks like they only have 1 16" option, the drag radial II's


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bfg/bfg.jsp


but these look pretty good too and they have a couple different profiles for a 16"


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...KDW+2

budget 01-29-2007 01:30 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (spOolin97)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spOolin97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">surprisingly stock shafts on preludes can take a beating. I want to run my car in the springtime at the track with drag radials.
last year there was a 500whp prelude with stock tranny and shafts running m/t slicks and he ran all day no issues
btw: with suspension and traction bars plus the drag radials you guys think i can hit 12.9?


Modified by spOolin97 at 4:29 PM 1/29/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

are u kidding? im at 444whp in a 5th gen as well and gunna be running on radials, looking to hit high 11's

-stock tranny/axles/head/intake manifold/cams/cam gears/NO TRACTION BAR


anyways e-money is suggesting running radials at 195/50/15 GTFO https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif

225/50/15 https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Revi 01-29-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (budget)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by budget &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

are u kidding? im at 444whp in a 5th gen as well and gunna be running on radials, looking to hit high 11's

-stock tranny/axles/head/intake manifold/cams/cam gears/NO TRACTION BAR


anyways e-money is suggesting running radials at 195/50/15 GTFO https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif

225/50/15 https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

so 225/50R/15 BFG Drag Radials and what size rim? 15x7 sound good? Im interested in the Rota Slipstreams cause they are cheap and weight about 12lbs, which is not bad.

Revi 01-29-2007 02:19 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (Revi)
 
Ive also been reading up on the drag racing forum and it seems alot of the eg/ek hatch guys run a 225/50/15 BFG. Wouldnt a slightly bigger tire be better for a prelude seeing how its heavier and it has a bigger wheel well?

mgags7 01-29-2007 03:57 PM

Are you trying to stay DOT for a reason?

Why don't you get some welds and a set of M&H slicks?

Revi 01-29-2007 04:11 PM

Re: (bb4ever)
 
Well i was staying away from slicks because i thought i could damage or break the oem axels but it was stated that the axels can handle plenty of power, another reason to stay DOT would be because i would be able to thow on the drag tires in the front and drive to the track since most of the time i go by myself i would not have to carry my rims in my car.

mgags7 01-29-2007 04:20 PM

If I was gonna spend the money on a separate set of wheels for drag racing, I'd get slicks, they way outperform drag radials, and thats what matters on the timeslip.

Just my .02 https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

md23vtec 01-29-2007 04:43 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (Revi)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A Blue Lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, you could try 15" wheels. </TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif Use 225 50 15 bfg's if you want to stay DOT. End of story.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bb4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I was gonna spend the money on a separate set of wheels for drag racing, I'd get slicks, they way outperform drag radials, and thats what matters on the timeslip.

Just my .02 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif If you want to go for your absolute best times you can get out of the car put on slicks on a 15x8 inch wheel and have a ball. If you can drive the car you WONT break axles. I am still on stock axles in both of my preludes and I don't plan on upgrading until they start to have a problem on a regular basis.

Revi 01-29-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (md23vtec)
 
Thanks for all the info guys. But what would be a good wheel width to match the BFGs? 15x7? 15x8?

md23vtec 01-29-2007 04:47 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (Revi)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Revi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for all the info guys. But what would be a good wheel width to match the BFGs? 15x7? 15x8?</TD></TR></TABLE>

15x8 would defiantly be better because its a wider wheel so you have more contact on the road/track

EJ ITO 02-01-2007 05:53 AM

nah man nah.....just put dang-oh mudswampers on that thang

Revi 02-01-2007 07:37 AM

Re: (EJ ITO)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ ITO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nah man nah.....just put dang-oh mudswampers on that thang</TD></TR></TABLE>

Arent you suppose to be fixing your VTAK? Get out of here! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

skunked 02-01-2007 07:47 AM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (md23vtec)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by md23vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


If you want to go for your absolute best times you can get out of the car put on slicks on a 15x8 inch wheel and have a ball. If you can drive the car you WONT break axles. I am still on stock axles in both of my preludes and I don't plan on upgrading until they start to have a problem on a regular basis.</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Once you run slicks you'll be hooked https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

EJ ITO 02-01-2007 10:33 AM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (skunked)
 
vtak?.....some people just don't know nothing these days https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif

precisionelite 02-01-2007 12:18 PM

Re: Prelude specific Drag Racing wheel/tire combo..... (EJ ITO)
 
I'm running Welds Draglite Wheels 15x8 on M&H Slicks (23x8.5x15).With these wheels I had to order Weld's Lug Nuts because standard open end lug nuts won't work. I also had to run ARP extended wheel studs and (2) 5/16'' wheel spacers on each wheel. Hope that helps https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

CGags13 02-01-2007 12:26 PM

why dont the "standard" open end lugs work?

p.s. sucks for me john..i guess ill just use your welds until you get some studs


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