kornerk12

Are the dipsticks different from different years ? I am using a dipstick from a 97-01 h22a4 in an h22a. The level when i fill it with 5.1 quarts always comes up high. Im not sure why.

vlang29

is the oil pan dented? that will reduce oil capacity

kornerk12

no its not. Do the aluminum pans from h22a4 and steel h22a(1) pans have the same capacity ?

NirVTEC

4th and 5th gen dipsticks are different......the 5th gen is an inch shorter.

vlang29

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NirVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4th and 5th gen dipsticks are different......the 5th gen is an inch shorter.</TD></TR></TABLE>
is the dipstick tube the same length? if the tube is an inch shorter too, it would yield the same capacity.

i know the 92 H22A dipstick is 1/2" shorter than the H23, however i didn't measure the dip tubes

98vtec

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the vtec models are the same.

94 vtec = 15650-P5M-000
94 si = 15650-P14-A00
98 vtec = 15650-P5M-000

vinuneuro

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the vtec models are the same.

94 vtec = 15650-P5M-000
94 si = 15650-P14-A00
98 vtec = 15650-P5M-000
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That's wierd that the 94 vtec has a P5M parts code. The P5M designation wouldn't have come to exist until the intro of the 5th gen. The 4g part must have been superceded, but nonetheless, the oil pan dimensions and disptick length had to have always been the same if they're using the same part now.

NirVTEC

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the vtec models are the same.

94 vtec = 15650-P5M-000
94 si = 15650-P14-A00
98 vtec = 15650-P5M-000
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No...they aren't.....
And if its not the difference between 4th and 5th gen, its USDM vs JDM with the JDM being longer....All H22 dipsticks ARE NOT the same. When I bought a brand new one from Honda it said P5M and was about 1" shorter than the JDM H22 one that was on the engine.
If someone could help the process, please measure the actual stick length for a USDM 5th gen and USDM 4th genVTEC....I will measure my JDM H22A and USDM H22A4 stick tonight.

JDM H22A: Blade=18.25" Overall=21.25" DS tube distance from top of VC=3"
USDM H22A1: (?)
USDM H22A4: (?)
The 2 different ones that I have read 1qt off each other....

Post of mine from last year, but the pics are down....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NirVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also have to add that using the H22A4 dipstick and filling it based on that, meant overfilling it by 1 full quart......

Just brainstorming right now......I am very curious to what is going on.
Top is H22A1-P13 bottom is H22A4-P5M
You can cleary see if you use an H22A4-P5M dipstick in an H22A1, you will overfill by 1 quart.......</TD></TR></TABLE>

Modified by NirVTEC at 3:50 PM 7/18/2008


Modified by NirVTEC at 4:34 PM 7/18/2008

kornerk12

wow interesting.

kornerk12

anyone measure them

NirVTEC

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I got tied up this weekend but I will try to do it tonight. I will take pics of the H22A4 and H22A dipstick side by side. I had a pic up on my last post....I deleted it though.
Can someone measure their H22A1 with the 3 measurements I have above?
I also need an H22A4 DS tube to VC distance.

***Thanks guys***

And I love how people stay away form a post once they are proven wrong.... Checking part #'s FTL!



Modified by NirVTEC at 10:34 AM 7/21/2008

98vtec

i guess honda needs to reconfigure there part numbers then.

vinuneuro

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I got tied up this weekend but I will try to do it tonight.

And I love how people stay away form a post once they are proven wrong.... Checking part #'s FTL!

Modified by NirVTEC at 10:34 AM 7/21/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because others can't get tied up this the weekend but will try to do it tonight?

NirVTEC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i guess honda needs to reconfigure there part numbers then.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Their....

Maybe you shouldn't have answered by checking part #'s....nobody likes bad info especially when it pertains to oil levels.

98vtec

maybe you should stop finding reasons to be an ***. that would be a start to your downward trend.

Eddiebx

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And I love how people stay away form a post once they are proven wrong.... Checking part #'s FTL!
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yep because everyone's life revolves around arguing about a dipstick on the internet.

NirVTEC

Yah, correct oil level isn't important especially when youre talking a QT over.....
H22A4=21" overall and 17.5" blade length

ludekid4323

I want a panducky

Eddiebx

NirVTEC (9:29 AM 7/22/2008): And I think you should keep your comments to yourself. This has nothing to do with you and every comment you make like is just another swing on 98vtec's nuts......

NirVTEC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NirVTEC (9:29 AM 7/22/2008): And I think you should keep your comments to yourself. This has nothing to do with you and every comment you make like is just another swing on 98vtec's nuts......


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x2.....such a sissy.....

IIVIIoOkY

regardless on the fact if he's trying to be a dick or not, he's trying to help someone not destroy their motor by putting in way too much oil... i guess thats swinging on his nuts...

NirVTEC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IIVIIoOkY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">regardless on the fact if he's trying to be a dick or not, he's trying to help someone not destroy their motor by putting in way too much oil... i guess thats swinging on his nuts...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually EddieBx is swinging on 98vtec's nuts with his comment towards me.
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yep because everyone's life revolves around arguing about a dipstick on the internet.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Theres nothing to argue......
98vtec was wrong and Eddiebx still loves him!

Eddiebx

you realize the more you try to prove yourself as superior and attempt to make others look bad, the more you look like a fkn cry baby.

NirVTEC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you realize the more you try to prove yourself as superior and attempt to make others look bad, the more you look like a fkn cry baby.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the insight....

Televator

iTrader: (1)

Ugh, drama. Well if it matters to anyone I can measure my '93 dipstick when I get the chance...if I can remember to do it this weekend. come to think My H23A doesn't have a dipstick. I hope I can use one form a 98+ block.