Greyout

any comments on the performance, spool time, and drivability of an 2.4L H23 with a T3/60-1 0.83 A/R.... specifically, the stage III vs. stage V wheel.

TrboH22

I agree with toyzbus, I own a turbocharged prelude and from what I've seen on almost any board and personally owning one would not boost more than 7 PSI on a stock H22 to be safe, without incredible tuning and a EMS 12 PSI will not be logical to boost daily and not worry about blowing up. From what I've seen many have problems with ring lands etc with only 8 or 9 psi. Please explain why you don't think we are correct? I'm trying to help him out, because if he doesn't have the money for a rebuild why pretend it's ok to run 12 psi on a stock h22 block safely....

BUCKO5

because it is all about tuning, tuning, tuning!!!!!!!!! and that is how i plan to achieve high boost on stock internals, just like firedrake.....go to solid-technology.com and look at project cars---brians prelude---see for yourself.

boostcraze

hey guys im buying a precision SC60 and was wondering what would be the best manifold. i really like the tubular manis, i cant seem to find many places that have h22 mani's.

BoostFrenzy.com

Setup going into a 92-96 Prelude Si


Do I need the full h22 swap or just the h22 long block..


H22A engine - $2,500 (www.hmotorsonline.com)
- Motor
- Hydrolic Tranny
- ECU (P13)
- Axles with Half Shaft
- Shifter Cables
- Shifter Assembly
- Stock Motor Mounts
- Alternator
- Starter
- Clutch
- Flywheel
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Distributor
- Engine Harness
- Comes With All Sensors Needed
- LSD Tranny (Optional +$300)

ARP Head Bolts - $109
RC Injectors 720 cc - $300
Oil Catch Can - $112
Port/Polish Head -$500
Hondata s200 w/ boost - $500
Fuel Rail - $200
- AEM Fuel Rail
Clutch - $500
- ACT
Flywheel - $300
- ACT Lightweight 11.7lbs
Rods - $400
- Eagle Rods
Pistons - $400
- JE Pistons
Sleeves - $800
- GE Godzilla Sleeves
Valves - $450
- Skunk2 Valves
Springs - $270
- Skunk2 Valve Springs
Retainers - $160
- Skunk2 Retainers

$7,501.00$

Turbo - $3,400
- Turbo Manifold $400
- Turbo Intercooler $1000
- Turbo Downpipe $400
- Turbo Garrett T3/60-1 $900
- WasteGate $200
- Blow Off Valve $200
- Intercooler Piping $100
- Oil Line Kit $100
- Silicon Couplers / Hose Clamps $100
Traction Bars - $700
- JimFab.com
GM 3-Bar Map Sensor - $90

93ludeSi

that $7501 is a little short for a total, I know that the sleeves are 850 for regular 89mm, plus shipping ect.

BuddhaTB

Some real nice Turbo Preludes

BoostFrenzy.com

Those are prices that I can get.. I wasn't asking for prices, I was asking if anything is missing from the setup.. I could even get cheaper prices.

93ludeSi

well then let me know where you are getting those prices

and you are missing new bearings for the crank (which should get balanced) and rods ect

BoostFrenzy.com

It's a local shop around here that doesn't work outta state.. they don't even use the internet for other than advertising on local forums for Arizona. They might deal with you if it was a big purchase order but they try to stay local only.

93ludeSi

nice hook up them, i have most of the parts for my car already, basically the same setup, but all motor, so there is a bunch of head work

flip1199

sound nice but i think that shop is rippin you off. You can get a brand new t3/60-1 for 650 at cheapturbos.com, and what kinda intercooler u running that cost $1000??? I could run a liquid-to-air with heat exchanger and a resivoir for less then that. Did u try lookin on ebay for intercoolers? Look up boostcoolers on ebay and he'll have some real nice spearco coolers for about half the price of the one your gettin.

skhan0501

i have a 2000 lude with a greddy turbo kit for the 97-99 and i guess i am running into some conflicts with the obd 2.0 and my ecu. currently i am running a e-manage system, with ignition harness and i should also shamefully have to add that its an auto (SS) and after dynoing without the cat i get a 195 with about 6-7 of boast. the check engine light is on even with the missing link and the start-up is horrindous. but the idle is decent. any ideas or suggestions?

BoostFrenzy.com

flip1199: not all prices are one's I've checked into.. he deals mainly in OEM honda parts.. I havent asked him about many aftermarket stuff.. some of those prices are guess's as to how much I will spend and I'd rather over estimate then under estimate.

97luder

skhan051: I have the Greddy kit on my 1997 Honda prelude and it works perfect!

My question is:

1. Why are you using the e-manage? If you plan on running 7 psi, just use the greddy blue box that came with the kit. I have been running the blue box for 3 mths with no problems what so ever.

2. Did you notice any power gains after removing your cat with the turbo? The check engine light could be on because you removed your cat.

3. The Greddy cast down pipe is pretty shitty and is a HUGE restriction on the H22. Did you get a custom built 2.5 inch downpipe? I know BOOSTED97Lude has one for his car but he hasn't posted any pics of it yet. I would really like to see it is extremely tight there.

Don't expect to get HUGE WHP with the Greddy kit unless you start modifying your car more.

skhan0501

can i talk to your friend i just got a greddy turbo on a 2000 prelude and its having conflicts?

did he get an emanage? or a new ecu?

please help me!!!!!!

best,
sKhan

ps i just blew 5 g's without a result

skhan0501

how did your 2k lude work with the Greddy Turbo? I had to get an e-manage and all this other fuel crap and yes change that downpipe without a cat alone adds 15 horses trust me i ran in on dyno

skhan0501

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BoostedH23a1

yo this thread is extremly to long

tarheelsoldier

ok,, all of u turbo smart people,, help please. i have an H23a and am gonna do the H23 Vtec conversion. one guy on the H23 Vtec page said the compression lowered from the stock to like 9.3-1,, so on that compressoin what would be my parts list to run somewhere in the neighborhood of 7psi to 11psi? and where did u get that type 24 (UN BOOSTED) FMIC? oh and on the parts list-- specify sizes and make it minimums cause this will be a daily driver. thanks alot

93ludeSi

yes the compression will be lower because the h22 head has a lager combustion area with larger vavles

hatchback19

anyone have a gt30 turbo on a prelude?
if so what manifold?

thx

Firedrake

Greyout: I can't make any comments on the stage 5 vs stage 3 wheel, but I can say that a t3/60-1 with the stage 3 wheel will probably be the turbo you're looking for. Also, did you mean .82 a/r not .83? On a 9:1 H22, it starts spooling around 3500 and makes 15psi-ish by 4500 or so. It's laggy compared to like a t04e with a smaller a/r, but if you wanna be able to make an efficient 18psi you'll need the 60-1.....

97luder: The blue box IS the e-manage. It's the piggyback that Greddy includes with their kits.

skhan0501: Has the car been tuned at all or did you just bolt everything on? Even the little greddy box has a small amount of tuning capability via the little *****.....
Brian

PreIudeSI

anybody want to buy my je pistons? please... somebody buy these, check my sig.

97luder

Firedrake: The e-manage is completely different from the blue box. The blue box that came with my greddy kit does not allow for any tuning whatsoever.