Motoer head

hi im new to this site and to Hondas i got a problem with my prelude motor
is a h22a the timing belt walked off the came gears and was rubbing on the valve cover it wore about 1/4'' off the belt i replaced the belt and spun the motor over by hand the belt didn’t move a bit i put it all back together and started it up and the belt walked off the gears about 1/4'' and has staed like that for 2 days can any one give me any information on y this is happening?

roller3804

Sounds like the auto tensioner has failed. Mine walked off just like that and shaved about 1/4" off as well. I took everything off and swapped to the manual tensioner. My timing belt still is about 1-2mm over the edge but stays there...My friends h23 does the same thing..I think in order to eliminate it completely you would need to replace the cam gears, crank gear, all the pulleys and the water pump gear to ensure everything is 100% flat. Also make sure that the balance shaft pulleys are installed correctly.

Did you follow the helms manual on the install?

Motoer head

the balance belt i left off but i was thinking of going to the manual tensioner its just weird the motor only has 70k on it

q16racer

Kstuned has a new design manual tensior that bolts in place of the auto!

Motoer head

thanks
thouse are cheeper for the hole kit then the auto its self
i tryed ever thing alredy new tenshoner and new water pump new belt so i will try the
manual tensioner and see if that works

Apex1972

I have an H23 manual right now but getting the belt on is a bitch. heres the part he was talking about OP, looks like a win to me.same price as a stock hydro tensioner too.

http://www.kstuned.com/detail.src?SK...=73&Sub=83&NM=

Motoer head

thanks for the help and do the h22a need to run the balance shafts?

97ludedude

i havent ran mine for a while now. no problems.

snobordboy

Dumb question, but I did this once, without the balancer belt in there, do you still have the balancer pulley on the crankshaft? If you don't the timing pulley will walk out when running, until the belt hits the valve cover up top.

typemismatch

I have my balance shafts deleted on both my H22s, I think the delete is actually supposed to even help oil pressure

minilogoguy18

^This and to back up snoboardboi you need all the pulleys in place if you do a balance shaft delete unless you make some precision spacers the exact thickness that can replace them.

cullylude05

Can anyone else comment about the kstuned tensioner and not going with h23 conversion, It would be great to hear some users comment. Sounds good on website but u know how that can be

q16racer

its brand new. looks promising tho. kstuned is a well known h series tuner.

snobordboy

Kaizenspeed just debuted that part last week, but it looks sweet, is the perfect idea, and they always build a precision product with lots of r & d in it, not to mention they build alot of fast H cars, and race an 8 sec H powered civic.

Damn, Blake beat me!

cullylude05

Cool, well thanks I got some time before I'm ready to do my build but I like the idea, better then the h23 part list I had to go manual.

minilogoguy18

It's too new to really know how good it is, either way you go you still need that bolt replaced.

midwestss

Has anybody had any luck with the Kstuned balance shaft eliminator? Has anything ever gone wrong?

PABB4

I am in the middle of my build, last week I read the post that Kaizenspeed came out with the new manual tensioner so I picked one up. I am not finished with my build yet, but I the install was awesome. Bolted right up, I'll write a review after I finish my build.

roller3804

I don't know how much I agree with this since I got a brand new idler pulley bolt and pulleys and it still is hanging off the edge a tiny bit..

roller3804

yeah I was given a link to that after I bought and installed all the h23 manual swap stuff....
I would be interested in trying it.

roller3804

I am assuming you're referring to my timing belt. It walked off completely on its own before I touched anything. The timing belt stays on just fine for now. Its about 1-2mm over the edge of the cam gears. I appreciate and take your advice seriously because I know you are very experienced and knowledgeable. I don't believe I made any errors installing it. Its pretty straight forward. I took everything apart after watching the timing belt for a week with the upper cover off and redid it all to make sure it wasn't any error on my part. I even added the A-brace that goes in place of the auto tensioner because it makes tensioning the balancing belt a HELL of a lot easier.

Motoer head

i drove the car about 200mi and the belt ate its sellf agen so

i got the kstuned tensioner and went to Honda got all the poles and bolts for the hole timing set if this dus not work who wants a h22a type s lol and i will let yall no haw the tensioner works. irilly hope this works cus i got about 1000 in all these belts and parts that ''are bad'' so with all this dun and it walks off agene could it the head not torqued dawn in the proper way

roller3804

What exactly did you change on the last test when it walked off and shredded up again?

snobordboy

Or hear it rubbing on the valve cover? Mine squealed like hell as soon as I would start it.

midwestss

Has anybody tried Greddys belt kit? Both the timing belt and tensioner belt is supposed to be high quality stuff. Any takers?