MadCityLude

EDIT*** FIXED - Read on for info!! Car is running great now!

Well I just finished my swap. H22a4 into my 92 Lude Si 4ws. I used an H23a harness, JDM OBD1 injectors, Distributor Kings H22a1 Dizzy, Stock H22a4 coil, and removed the A4 crank sensor. Did the manual tensioner conversion. Removed balance belt. Removed EGR. And have tried both my JDM H22a ECU and my chipped ECU.

Will not start.
Triple checked timing (definatelly correct)
Getting fuel to the Rail for sure.
Added 5 gallons of fresh 93 octane fuel.
Changed plugs, rotor and tried different wires.
Ground by the thermostat is good for sure
Cleaned battery terminals and body ground.
Double Checked for Spark to all 4 cyl.

Turns over great. Sounds like it should - just not starting
Any advise?
I tried to search = it was down

Thanks in advance.



Modified by MadCityLude at 1:25 PM 10/12/2006

AsiAnVenOm

you just answered your own question...
if you remove the crank sensor then where does it get a crank sensor signal? my advice use a h22a1 dizzy...

JasonST

Even though u changed some ignition stuff doens't mean ur gettin spark, pull ur spark plugs out and crank it and see if ur getting spark. Any cels?

MadCityLude

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AsiAnVenOm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you just answered your own question...
if you remove the crank sensor then where does it get a crank sensor signal? my advice use a h22a1 dizzy...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am using the H22a1 dizzy.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JasonST &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Even though u changed some ignition stuff doens't mean ur gettin spark, pull ur spark plugs out and crank it and see if ur getting spark. Any cels?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I pulled the plugs - tested all 4 and have good spark to them all. I am throwing CELs when I try to use my P13. I have removed EGR and KS. My chipped ECU has them eliminated.

MadCityLude

anyone? what am I missing here? I was really hoping to get this running tonight.

Thanks Again

SKDRCR

How is the compression?

JTCdudeman

spark, timing, fuel.... thats all it can be...

Revi

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How is the compression?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Phildo916

Are you sure you have the approriate ECU? Is the H22a4 motor not an OBDII motor? Slap another ECU on there and see how that goes.

Revi

H22A4 is OBDII.

MadCityLude

I have conveted it to OBD1. I tried both my stock P13 and my chipped P72. No luck with either.

MadCityLude

My thought is that the H22a4 coil is somehow different than the H22a coil. I am using the H22a4 cause it had the same plug and when researching part numbers it appeared they were the same. But I am trying to find an H22a1 coil now.

mgags7

I really doubt its the coil...


Did you buy the distributor whole or have to put the rotor on it?? It could be 180 deg out....

MadCityLude

I was using it on my JDM H22a - bought it new from disributor kings last year (was just workin on my last engine). So I just pulled it off and put it on the H22a4. I tried turning the dizzy to a few spots and still nothing.

Phildo916

Does the thumbs up mean you figured it out? If so what was the issue?

MadCityLude

no this thread is done!

use this one for more info

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1777558

MadCityLude

Well I got here running. Thanks to everyone here. Turned out to be something called a dead plug. This is a picture of the "Dead Plug" that was the culprit then entire time. You notice the "plug/cap" that is what was missing from the harness. I simply removed one from my other harness. It acts as a sort of jumper for 2 sets of 4 wires. It has 8 wires total and all are the black/yellow color

Phildo916

Correct me if im wrong but is that not a connector for automatic trannsmissions?

EvoB23

Thats what it looks like

y0whuddupb

TDC? main relay? jump start it just to be sure. firing order correct?

soundbomber

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MadCityLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I got here running. Thanks to everyone here. Turned out to be something called a dead plug. This is a picture of the "Dead Plug" that was the culprit then entire time. You notice the "plug/cap" that is what was missing from the harness. I simply removed one from my other harness. It acts as a sort of jumper for 2 sets of 4 wires. It has 8 wires total and all are the black/yellow color

</TD></TR></TABLE>i believe that plug is where all the grounds on the harness connect?

Finest

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by y0whuddupb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TDC? main relay? jump start it just to be sure. firing order correct? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Read the thread. He got it working.

y0whuddupb

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Finest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Read the thread. He got it working. </TD></TR></TABLE>


cool!

MadCityLude

update - she is out of the garage.

prelude72569858

could be wrong but im pretty sure thats just a distribution cap ??