Boarderx192

If you could have your pick, which one would you choose and why. I can get my hands on either one (whole swap) but dont know which one to get. I have a JDM h22A in my car right now but wanna swap. My ideal goal would be to get a 13.5 or lower in the 1/4 and prob around 230 whp. I wanna know the pros and cons of each. I know that the F20B has a super strong bottem end, and I like that it revs high but the type-s also has 220hp stock. Whats your input?

raylude

LOL! are u for real? h22!!

Boarderx192

what is the potential for the type s? As far as mods go, can anything that bolts up to h22a bolt up to the Type-s? Whats the main differance between the H22a and the type-s? Im a newb when it comes to the type-s so anything helps. As Im reading through past threads, Im seeing a lot of differeant opinions as to what is the best motor for a prelude. I have a 98 prelude and am looking to get the best possible motor for it. I want to go all motor but dont know which one to choose. Help

Speedra500

i personally would save the money and build your current motor, you cant do anything more with a type-s than you can do with your current motor either, i honestly think the the h22 is the better choice for your prelude, but if you are planning on extreme modifications the F20B would probably work pretty well also

Broken Devil

Isn't the F20B the jdm prelude motor?

bad-monkey

build your USDM h22. the type S is basically the same with some improvements, but for the cost of the h22-s you can make your current H22 a better engine.

improvements on the h22-s off the top of my head:
11.0:1 cr
type S cams/valvetrain
ATTS (which can be a negative too)

fastprelude60657

im doing the f22a1 swap to a f20b swap right now in a 95 prelude auto (i know dont laugh) but he does not have the cash for both swaps.only thing so far is what to do with the fuil rail ??/ the f20b has two electric plugs and the f22a1 has one !!!sorry i just started this project so i have yet to work out the kinks !!but i have a dig. camera and will take as many pics of the job as i go ..all your help is very welcom !!thanks

Gerhard_001

Stick with your USDM H22, you should have put more thought befor posting. The F20B is a destroked H22A S-spec. Why do you wanna swap your H22A again?

PirateMcFred

F20B is about $3000 for the manual swap. The H22 type-S is $4400. So I would go with the F20B and then sleeve it to 89mm and get high compression forged pistons. then both would be 2.2 liter and one would have higher compression and a better RS ratio for revability for the same price. just my $.02 though.

Pirate

Akhany

I'm curious... Anybody know what the sleeve is made of in the F20b? FRM????

PirateMcFred

85mm iron

satan_srv

Considering you already have a JDM H22a I would say it's ridiculous to change the motor.

You are not going to hit 230whp in any of the 3 motors without a bunch of work either way, so why not start with the one you already have?

Jason kiDD

Agreed..

Boarderx192

Im Just dont want the H22A. I can get the type-s for $3500 shipped. I just want the best starting platform I can get. I like that the F20B has iro sleves so that I dont have to sleve the block if I want to add forged pistons and rods. I also like that it is a high reving motor. Im partial to that one right now. The only thing that I dont know about is that through my research, I heard that its hard to get large amounts of power out of it because of the restricted airflow in the head since the valves are smaller. What you think? No matter what Im swaping the motor so dont say that you would just keep the H22 in it right now.

Jason kiDD

Well then you should listen to those that been in the business for some time now.. With that proposed $3500 you would spend on the same engine you could build your own to whatever specs you like, sleeves, balanced & blue printed, making much more power than the others in stock form..

Just my 2 cents..

blackdelslo

To hit 230whp arent you going to have to do internal work to the motor? Whats the point of spending 4400 and changing the rare type s internals when you can just get aftermarket cam/valvetrain and pistons/rings/rods and make it quicker than the type s?

Boarderx192

Around here (Buffalo NY) we do mostly higway pulls. I want a good motor for Highway pulls. I dont really want to get into changing the bottem end internals. I want a motor that will run great, Last and most importantly be reliable. Maybe the type-s isnt the best choice. What is. I need the motor to be OBD 2 when I get it. I dont want to have to chang anything over to be OBD 2. I want it to drop in and plug in and be ready to go. I bought a Honda because they are nice cars but most importantly, they are reliable. Im not looking to shatter any kind of records here. Im just trying to see what the best options are. I would like to have LSD so that narrows some options. I know that there is also some differances in the trannies of all the differant option. Which one is best. I would also like to be able to rev higher. I dont wanna piece together a motor swap. I want to be be to by the whole swap form a reputable soure and drop it in the car. I guess these are my options:

F20B
H22 Type-S
H22a7

What other H22s come with LSD and are OBD 2? What would be the best motor swap to drop into the 98 lude keeping in mind that I use the car to get to school and work but at night I hit up the highway.

JadedGamerX

I don't condone your actions in any way, but how about a Euro-R out of an accord sir-T? High Rev's plus h22 torque.

Boarderx192

Why dont you condone them? I thought about the Euro R but can find a reputable shop to buy it from. Any ideas?

PirateMcFred

Of course you do know that the H22 Type-S is also ATTS equipped right? That means NO LSD. So unless your car is an SH lude then you will have problems with the swap. Custom fabricated bracketry will be needed.

Pirate

Jason kiDD

He could juss get the Type SIR swap that comes with factory LSD.. Same thing juss plug and play.. But since you already have a motor I dont see the sense it makes but its your money.

satan_srv

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boarderx192 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im Just dont want the H22A. I can get the type-s for $3500 shipped. I just want the best starting platform I can get. I like that the F20B has iro sleves so that I dont have to sleve the block if I want to add forged pistons and rods. I also like that it is a high reving motor. Im partial to that one right now. The only thing that I dont know about is that through my research, I heard that its hard to get large amounts of power out of it because of the restricted airflow in the head since the valves are smaller. What you think? No matter what Im swaping the motor so dont say that you would just keep the H22 in it right now. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey wake up, Type-S IS an H22A.

Sure F20B is iron sleeve but only 85mm...you will not get much displacement out of it and it's already 11:1 CR.

If you must buy something else...I agree F20B is the way to go only if you sleeve it to 89mm and run 12:1 CR...

speaking of which I will have to build one of those someday...2.2L F20B...hmm

satan_srv

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JadedGamerX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't condone your actions in any way, but how about a Euro-R out of an accord sir-T? High Rev's plus h22 torque.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what? A Euro-R engine is pretty much the exact same as a type-s. they both use 90.7mm H22a cranks.

The Euro-R just has a better tranny.

98TypeSH

hell man, just buy my JUN head and hondata then buy a bad *** exhaust setup and im willing to bet with some type s pistons you could hit 230 all day long.

JadedGamerX

man your really trying to pawn that thing off aren't you ^^^^
Sorry I thought the Euro-R motor was a bit more lofty in the High RPM range than the type-s but I'm no expert, just another suggestion, and the Euro-R has his beloved LSD as I recall.