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Old 12-07-2005, 12:50 PM
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getting tuned with a p72 and hondata system and getting into my manual tensioner conversion ..would it be worth it to put cam gears in then to or should i wait till i get some crower stage 2 cams
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It would help but only to a certain point.... put everything on then tune though
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pointless.. wait till u get cams.
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I don't know how badly tuned it was before the dyno, but I got 12 whp with cam gears with stock cams and a slight advance on timing. I lost a little mid-range torque to get the extra horses. Before tuning: 158 whp, after: 170 whp. Thats with I/H/E/cam gears/ underdrive pullies. Not that great, but an improvement.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wannabe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know how badly tuned it was before the dyno, but I got 12 whp with cam gears with stock cams and a slight advance on timing. I lost a little mid-range torque to get the extra horses. Before tuning: 158 whp, after: 170 whp. Thats with I/H/E/cam gears/ underdrive pullies. Not that great, but an improvement. </TD></TR></TABLE>

my money is on the advance of timing. cam gears allow u to move the powerband up or down.
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That might be what happened. I was still pleased with the extra power.
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I gained 3whp and 1wtq with cam gears on a stock internal US h22. Huge increase huh
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If you're gonna get adjustable cam gears anyway, go ahead. If you've got the time might as well
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flip1199 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
cam gears allow u to move the powerband up or down.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They also allow you to adjust your overlap.
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if i'm going in there to do my manual tensioner how much harder is it to put these on just a couple bolts ehh!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC’s ride &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i'm going in there to do my manual tensioner how much harder is it to put these on just a couple bolts ehh!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

make sure you get keyways cause the stock cam gears have them built in.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DcWest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

make sure you get keyways cause the stock cam gears have them built in. </TD></TR></TABLE>

really?

Never seen that before.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DcWest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure you get keyways cause the stock cam gears have them built in. </TD></TR></TABLE>

firstly keyways are the things in the camshafts and in the gears....the keys are seperable from both....



#35 is the key....seperable.....your gears probably just had them stuck in....

ps. please excuse me if my grammar or spelling is wrong.......etc
Old 12-10-2005, 07:00 AM
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i'll also have to hack the cam gear cover to get constant access to them for tunning whats the best way to do this a dremel or what ???
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yeah a dremel will work nicely....
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i've seen people cut circles in the front and on other engines the whole cover is removed but i don't think you can do it that way with h22s because the valve cover and cam gear cover r one...correct me if i'm wrong ..how have you guys done it.. SEEEYAAA
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one local guy gained a respectable amount of horsepower from cam gears on a stock-cam'd H22. As said above, playing with the overlap can move the powerband.

And to Skunked: according to my Dyno program says you will only gain about 1 HP with every degree of advance you run.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeyKrus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And to Skunked: according to my Dyno program says you will only gain about 1 HP with every degree of advance you run.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's about right.....

I think it was +2 IN, -1 EX on the stock cams.
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i just cut that part of the valve cover off with a sawzall, then dremeled out the plastic of the upper timing cover.
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Recomend BDL cam gears.
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