Honda-Tech - Honda Forum Discussion

Honda-Tech - Honda Forum Discussion (https://honda-tech.com/forums/)
-   Honda Prelude (https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-prelude-4/)
-   -   88-91 H22 Swap Info (https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-prelude-4/88-91-h22-swap-info-1860111/)

1funryd 01-10-2007 10:53 AM

88-91 H22 Swap Info
 
I am creating this post to educate all the 3rd(1988 - 1991 Prelude) gen prelude owners on this site since it is once of the most poplular site to for Honda info.

I know there was a write up on doing the H22 swap into the 88-91 prelude on here somewhere so I am posting up the most current information to date.

I will update this info as we continue to improve and add to this massive project.

I now support the 88-91 Prelude community with the H22/23 or F series swap, and I make the mounts and supporting Traction Bar system as well, and sell the H22 conversion harness made by WireWorx only through me.

Here is what we have do date:

Mounts:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...aa90f2d835.jpg

(The Old AZ Race and Machine mounts stopped production in 2010, I took over the design now. Pictures below are from the first sets.)

One of the members on http://www.preludepower.com that purchased and installed the first set.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...H22Swap025.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...H22Swap026.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...H22Swap018.jpg

Here is the clearance from a stock stance(meaning not lowered)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...dClearance.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...Clearance3.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...Clearance5.jpg


Here are some links to write ups that were done:

The current swap thread: http://www.preludepower.com/forums/s...d.php?t=315370

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif


Modified by 1funryd at 1:31 PM 1/10/2007


Modified by 1funryd at 1:32 PM 1/10/2007


Modified by 1funryd at 1:32 PM 1/10/2007


Modified by 1funryd at 1:33 PM 1/10/2007


Modified by 1funryd at 1:33 PM 1/10/2007


Modified by 1funryd at 1:33 PM 1/10/2007

Hawkze_2.3 01-10-2007 11:00 AM

Re: 88-91 H22 Swap Info (1funryd)
 
Good info https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif Makes me want to go find a 3rd gen...

1funryd 01-10-2007 11:01 AM

Re: 88-91 H22 Swap Info (Hawkze_2.3)
 
Your welcome! Here to help!

Sean https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

handa 01-10-2007 12:50 PM

Re: 88-91 H22 Swap Info (1funryd)
 
Awesome work! I know someone local that needs these info. Thank you very much! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

GtechPro 01-10-2007 01:00 PM

Re: 88-91 H22 Swap Info (1funryd)
 
Good info https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

I had a 3rd gen Si (once upon a time) and loved it. This makes me want to buy another one...

WhiteBB2 01-10-2007 01:02 PM

Re: 88-91 H22 Swap Info (GtechPro)
 
would love a 3rd gen to go with my 4th gen...both with h22a's would be nice.

britishdude 01-10-2007 01:05 PM

Re: 88-91 H22 Swap Info (Hawkze_2.3)
 
Me too I really loved my old 3rd gen with fluttering eyelids she was sexy, I now have 5th gen & would love to combine older car with newer h22. With handling and braking mods it would make a real drivers car, takes me back to my teens nearly. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

KEVLARsh 01-10-2007 01:05 PM

Re: 88-91 H22 Swap Info (WhiteBB2)
 
i want to buy another 3rd gen, looks good

1funryd 01-10-2007 01:31 PM

I feel combining the old with the new on this car would make a perfect match. The only thing this car needed was a better powerplant, but back in the day it was built it was considered a peppy little compact sport car. So, bringing it up to date is the perfect scenario.


BlueLude84 01-10-2007 04:35 PM

Re: (1funryd)
 
Wow, thats an awsome guide!
I have 1 question though, will the same things apply for my 2nd Gen?
Its almost the exact same body style, and my engine bay looks a bit bigger than that 3rd Gen.

GtechPro 01-10-2007 04:45 PM

Re: (BlueLude84)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueLude84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Its almost the exact same body style</TD></TR></TABLE>

Almost doesn't count https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

So no, this wouldn't work with the 2nd gen.

1funryd 01-10-2007 04:57 PM

Re: (GtechPro)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GtechPro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Almost doesn't count https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

So no, this wouldn't work with the 2nd gen. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I do not know? I used to own a 2nd gen too, and I know there is a guy who successfull swapped a B18 into it.

As for the H22, I cannot say, you will have to take some pics and get some measurements from the engine bay so we can compare.

Sean

GtechPro 01-10-2007 05:16 PM

Re: (1funryd)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1funryd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do not know? I used to own a 2nd gen too, and I know there is a guy who successfull swapped a B18 into it.

As for the H22, I cannot say, you will have to take some pics and get some measurements from the engine bay so we can compare.

Sean</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought he was asking if the H22 mount kit and the write-up's would also apply for 2nd gen ludes... I honestly doubt it, but the best way to find out would be to take measurments, like you said.

2nd gen Prelude was my first car BTW https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif
After that I had an 89 Si. Then a 95 VTEC, a 94 VTEC, and now another 95 VTEC. (I also had 2 EG's and a DA integra).
That's 5 Preludes. And I hope that's not the final count as I'd love do a 90-91 Si + H22A project.


BlueLude84 01-10-2007 05:29 PM

Re: (GtechPro)
 
Ok, I'll take some measurements tomorrow when its light, and i'll post it on this thread.
-Edit-
Heres a pick of my engine bay, it looks identical ^^. But I swear mine looks bigger.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...r/DSCF0101.jpg

1funryd 01-10-2007 05:48 PM

Re: (BlueLude84)
 
Ok lets compare:

3rd gen
https://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h...H22Swap026.jpg

2nd gen
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...r/DSCF0101.jpg

It seems that your engine bay is smaller, remember you have a SOHC and the 3rd gens are DOHC.

From what I can see, the engine will be too big and too much custom work to be viable, but this is only from a visual observation.

Sean

Montx 01-10-2007 06:23 PM

Man I love you. I avidly browse the PP.com forums and I'm glad you're making a valid impression on here too. If I ever get my second 'lude the H22 swap is in the future! keep up the good work.

BlueLude84 01-10-2007 07:13 PM

Re: (Montx)
 
Do you have the measurements for that cars bay?
So that way we can compare tomorrow when I take mine?
And if not an H22 swap, what would you reccomend for a swap into my car?

1funryd 01-10-2007 07:24 PM

Re: (BlueLude84)
 
Ok, this is what I found for swapping the B16A into your car:

http://www.geocities.com/b16aprelude...bay.top.01.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/b16aprelude...bay.top.02.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/b16aprelude...ull.RHS.01.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/b16aprelude...ull.LHS.01.jpg

The cost of this project was 10,000 +.

Here is the link for you to read up on it.

http://www.geocities.com/b16aprelude/index.html


And here is a picture of a B18 swapped into the 2nd gen Lude:
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

I hope this helps, of course you can find all this info at: http://www.preludepower.com

It will be in the 2nd Gen Section on the site.

Sean

1funryd 10-25-2014 07:05 PM

B16/18/20b Swap mounts
 
I now support a new swap into the 3rd gen Preludes.

Just finished up the B16/18/20b swap mounts and sell them as well as figured out the rod shift linkage to support the swap.

Now all 88-91 Preludes can decide whether they want the Civic/Integra B series motors and tranny's or H22/23 or F series swaps.

This is a huge step forward being able to go between platforms for a very unsupported chassis that has out handles pretty much anything out there in stock trim.


Pics below....:)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...%29-edited.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K...%29-edited.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P...2B%2856%29.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...2B%2859%29.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z...2B%2839%29.jpg


Shifter:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q...2B%2883%29.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...2B%2885%29.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r...2B%2881%29.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-a...%29-edited.jpg




Contact me via pm or email: 1funryd@comcast.net



Sean


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:16 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands