5th Gen. Prelude
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Re: 5th Gen. Prelude (Blahblah)
I'd go JRSC and spend the rest of the money on the many parts that can help accomodate the JRSC. Also can't forget dyno tuning time to finish it all off.
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Re: 5th Gen. Prelude (Mike95lude)
Heres my list
Exhaust
-Mugen cat back sports exhaust=$1,000.00
-Mugen headers=$1,000.00
-High flow cat=$200.00
total=$2,200.00
Intake
-AEM CAI=$200.00
Suspension
-H&R Springs lower 1.4"=$170.00
-KYB AGX Shock=$350.00
-Total=$520.00
Wheels/Tires
-17" ROTA Subzeros=$550.00
-215-45 17 Bridgestone Potenzas RE-730=$400.00
Internals
-Skunk2 Stage 2 Cams=$750.00
-Skunk2 Titanium Retainers=$150.00
-Skunk2 Valves=$405.00
-Skunk2 Titanium Valve Spring=$250.00
-Skunk2 Cam Gears=125.00
-Total =$1680.00
Fuel Mgt
-Apex-i VTEC AFC Fuel Controller=$350.00
-AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator=$60.00
-AEM Fuel Rail=$140.00
-After Mrk fuel pump=$250.00
-Total $800.00
Grand Total for Performance=$6350.00
Oh you may want to get Stronger Pistons.+ $????
That's what I'd do if I had $7000.00 laying around.
Feel the pain with the weight of the car 3000 lbs I'd say its all in the engine.
[Modified by ryvtec, 11:16 PM 7/24/2002]
Exhaust
-Mugen cat back sports exhaust=$1,000.00
-Mugen headers=$1,000.00
-High flow cat=$200.00
total=$2,200.00
Intake
-AEM CAI=$200.00
Suspension
-H&R Springs lower 1.4"=$170.00
-KYB AGX Shock=$350.00
-Total=$520.00
Wheels/Tires
-17" ROTA Subzeros=$550.00
-215-45 17 Bridgestone Potenzas RE-730=$400.00
Internals
-Skunk2 Stage 2 Cams=$750.00
-Skunk2 Titanium Retainers=$150.00
-Skunk2 Valves=$405.00
-Skunk2 Titanium Valve Spring=$250.00
-Skunk2 Cam Gears=125.00
-Total =$1680.00
Fuel Mgt
-Apex-i VTEC AFC Fuel Controller=$350.00
-AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator=$60.00
-AEM Fuel Rail=$140.00
-After Mrk fuel pump=$250.00
-Total $800.00
Grand Total for Performance=$6350.00
Oh you may want to get Stronger Pistons.+ $????
That's what I'd do if I had $7000.00 laying around.
Feel the pain with the weight of the car 3000 lbs I'd say its all in the engine.
[Modified by ryvtec, 11:16 PM 7/24/2002]
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Re: 5th Gen. Prelude (DAVEROR)
Turbo and build the motor. Also invest in an lsd if you have any money leftover.
"Swap out to pig of a engine for a 1.8litter with 200hp"
Are you serious??? The H22 has 195-200hp, more torque and it fits!!! To make the b18c5 fit you have to make custom mounts, pain in the ***. Honestly the money is not worth the effort for a motor that is only slightly lighter.
[Modified by ichibanjap, 8:06 PM 7/25/2002]
"Swap out to pig of a engine for a 1.8litter with 200hp"
Are you serious??? The H22 has 195-200hp, more torque and it fits!!! To make the b18c5 fit you have to make custom mounts, pain in the ***. Honestly the money is not worth the effort for a motor that is only slightly lighter.
[Modified by ichibanjap, 8:06 PM 7/25/2002]
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Re: 5th Gen. Prelude (Blahblah)
Depends on alot of things, how much you boost, fuel management, ect....
Resleeving the block - roughly 1000
Pistons- up to 500
Rods- Eagle 360-400 Crower 600-700
These are just the basics, you can still upgrade injectors, the head p&p, standalone.... It all comes down to what brands you want to use.
With my motor i have 9.1 compression JE pistons, waiting to get Eagle rods, in the process of resleeving the block. That's just to get it running! Within the next couple of months I want to get bigger injectors, standalone, p&p the head with valve springs and retainers, and maybe a set of cams.
So the question is how extreme you want to go and how much your willing to spend on the motor and still having enough for the turbo. Anyways good luck in your quest for a turbo beast!
Resleeving the block - roughly 1000
Pistons- up to 500
Rods- Eagle 360-400 Crower 600-700
These are just the basics, you can still upgrade injectors, the head p&p, standalone.... It all comes down to what brands you want to use.
With my motor i have 9.1 compression JE pistons, waiting to get Eagle rods, in the process of resleeving the block. That's just to get it running! Within the next couple of months I want to get bigger injectors, standalone, p&p the head with valve springs and retainers, and maybe a set of cams.
So the question is how extreme you want to go and how much your willing to spend on the motor and still having enough for the turbo. Anyways good luck in your quest for a turbo beast!
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Re: 5th Gen. Prelude (EpDarks)
Built H22A4 Turbo motor owns everybody.
7k is a LOT for a setup.
If you think it's too heavy, gut the fat ***.
7k is a LOT for a setup.
If you think it's too heavy, gut the fat ***.
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Re: 5th Gen. Prelude (DAVEROR)
Swap out to pig of a engine for a 1.8litter with 200hp.
hp isn't everything my friend, and i'm gonna speak like a domestic owner now and you can quote me on this: THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT. period. what good is a B18C engine in a prelude? none. why? NO TORQUE! H22 has enough of it haul a heavy prelude around, but B18C doesnt. a prelude with a B18C would run like civic DX. that's like domestic guys diching V8's for V6's. doesn't make any sense. look at it this way: you have 2 same cars, same weight, same everything. both have no motors and they're ready for a swap.
in one car you drop in a B18C and in the other an H22. the car with that H22 would be faster. no ifs, buts, maybes, and ors. ok? if you have any other questions, i'll gladly explain.
as for the $7K and making a lude fast... you have many choices. BUT, it depends on how fast you want to go, how reliable you want it to be, how driveable you want it, what maintanance costs are you willing to deal with, etc etc.
IMO the best thing to do would be boost, and building your motor so you can boost safely (rods, bearings, pistons, etc). you also gotta keep in mind the fuel management, drive train, cooling, etc.
you can build a bomb *** all motor prelude for $7K. BUT it will still not be as fast as a boosted prelude with say, built bottom at 13-16lbs of boost. then, reliability comes up. do you really want a beefed up motor like that for your daily driver? is that $7K gonna make realiable as well as fast? maybe. maybe not.
what it comes down to my friend is this:
FAST. RELIABLE. CHEAP. pick two. so you take a pick and go from there.
good luck.
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Re: 5th Gen. Prelude (Blahblah)
What makes this car soo freaking heavy ???
it still has a better power to weight ratio than any Civic/Integra, save the Interga TypeR...
If light weight is your primary criteria for buying a car, get a Celica GTS...
Andrew
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Re: 5th Gen. Prelude (Blahblah)
With about 7,000 what would be the best thing to make the 5th generation prelude fast??? But with a daily driven car.
I'm convinced that the 5th gen Prelude is one of the best cars to build for SCCA Solo II STS class. So to that end I would do:
15x7.5" +48mm forged wheels - $1600
225/50/15 BFG G-Force t/a KD or Bridgestone PP S-03 - $700
Koni Sport adjustable dampers - $550
Ground Control Coilover sleaves (450f/325r) - $340
Mugen Header - $1000
Mugen Cat-back -$1000
Apexi V-AFC - $320
AEM CAI - $225
Neuspeed upper front tower bar - $140
ST rear swaybar - $200
AEM Underdrive accessory pulleys - $150
Total = $6225 if you buy everything new. And you will have one of the most powerful, best-handling cars allowed in STS.
Andrew
[Modified by aklucsarits, 12:39 PM 7/26/2002]
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Re: 5th Gen. Prelude (ryvtec)
Heres my list
Exhaust
-Mugen cat back sports exhaust=$1,000.00
-Mugen headers=$1,000.00
-High flow cat=$200.00
total=$2,200.00
Intake
-AEM CAI=$200.00
Suspension
-H&R Springs lower 1.4"=$170.00
-KYB AGX Shock=$350.00
-Total=$520.00
Wheels/Tires
-17" ROTA Subzeros=$550.00
-215-45 17 Bridgestone Potenzas RE-730=$400.00
Internals
-Skunk2 Stage 2 Cams=$750.00
-Skunk2 Titanium Retainers=$150.00
-Skunk2 Valves=$405.00
-Skunk2 Titanium Valve Spring=$250.00
-Skunk2 Cam Gears=125.00
-Total =$1680.00
Fuel Mgt
-Apex-i VTEC AFC Fuel Controller=$350.00
-AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator=$60.00
-AEM Fuel Rail=$140.00
-After Mrk fuel pump=$250.00
-Total $800.00
Grand Total for Performance=$6350.00
Oh you may want to get Stronger Pistons.+ $????
That's what I'd do if I had $7000.00 laying around.
Feel the pain with the weight of the car 3000 lbs I'd say its all in the engine.
[Modified by ryvtec, 11:16 PM 7/24/2002]
Exhaust
-Mugen cat back sports exhaust=$1,000.00
-Mugen headers=$1,000.00
-High flow cat=$200.00
total=$2,200.00
Intake
-AEM CAI=$200.00
Suspension
-H&R Springs lower 1.4"=$170.00
-KYB AGX Shock=$350.00
-Total=$520.00
Wheels/Tires
-17" ROTA Subzeros=$550.00
-215-45 17 Bridgestone Potenzas RE-730=$400.00
Internals
-Skunk2 Stage 2 Cams=$750.00
-Skunk2 Titanium Retainers=$150.00
-Skunk2 Valves=$405.00
-Skunk2 Titanium Valve Spring=$250.00
-Skunk2 Cam Gears=125.00
-Total =$1680.00
Fuel Mgt
-Apex-i VTEC AFC Fuel Controller=$350.00
-AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator=$60.00
-AEM Fuel Rail=$140.00
-After Mrk fuel pump=$250.00
-Total $800.00
Grand Total for Performance=$6350.00
Oh you may want to get Stronger Pistons.+ $????
That's what I'd do if I had $7000.00 laying around.
Feel the pain with the weight of the car 3000 lbs I'd say its all in the engine.
[Modified by ryvtec, 11:16 PM 7/24/2002]
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