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green98civic 07-24-2004 04:40 PM

steering dampner question
 
i have a 98 GSXR 600. on the side of the frame is a hole for a adjustable steering dampner. My question is how important is that steering dampner and should i get it or forget about it??

Etylorcen 07-24-2004 04:59 PM

Re: steering dampner question (green98civic)
 
Not sure what a dampner is, but a damper is a different story. The oem dampers dont do much. Aftermarket ones are great. Do a search.

CBRF4i 07-24-2004 05:03 PM

Anyone want to enlighten with what these things do exactly?

Jinya1004 07-24-2004 07:08 PM

Re: (CBRF4i)
 
I think hes refering to the Scotts or Ohlins Steering Dampers.

They basically prevent sudden motion in your handlebars, to increase stability in the front and rear tires.

I plan on picking up a Scott's Steering Damper for my 00 Gixxer.

Some newer bikes like the new Suzukis have them. I think the new CBR has an electronically controlled steering damper. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmileo.gif

green98civic 07-24-2004 08:30 PM

Re: (Jinya1004)
 
so is it worth getting for a 98 GSXR and is it easy to install??

SJcivic 07-24-2004 09:42 PM

I have one on mty CR250 and its saved my ass too many times to count. One on a street bike would be an neccessity.

Rich

Jinya1004 07-24-2004 10:29 PM

Re: (SJcivic)
 
Yes it is worth the $400 bucks.

Its gonna be the first thing I mod on my bike...except for the slip on I already got https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

green98civic 07-25-2004 02:32 PM

Re: (Jinya1004)
 
Is there a difference between a steering stablizer and a steering damper or are they the same? i am so confused about this matter

rapid_roy 07-25-2004 02:53 PM

Re: (SJcivic)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One on a street bike would be an neccessity.

Rich
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why?

CBRF4i 07-25-2004 03:02 PM

Can someone tell me or link me to a site that tells me what these things do. I have no clue what they do. My guess is that they control the wheel while your accelerating hard.

EGlovr 07-25-2004 03:31 PM

iirc basically a damper gives you more control when you go over bumps. when you go "fast", minor bumps in the road can throw you off a bit. a damper softens those bumps so you can control your balance better, reducing headshakes and tankslappers. ill try to find you a more in-depth link somewhere...

EGlovr 07-25-2004 03:36 PM

A patented compact non-obtrusive, hydraulic shock absorbing unit that mounts to the steering head of your motorcycle, directly over the center line of your steer tube. Its purpose is to absorb any unwanted left to right motion in the handlebars, a phenomenon known as "Headshake" or "wobble" that is commonly found on most production motorcycles due to the increased steering angles of today's bikes. By helping to stabilize the front end of your motorcycle, the rear of the motorcycle will track straighter allowing the rest of your suspension to work the way it was designed to. In addition, the Scotts Steering Stabilizer helps eliminate that sudden thrust affect of having the handlebars pulled from your hands after unknowingly hitting sharp edged objects, pot-holes, rocks, roadway grooves and uneven pavement. Because of it's mounting location, it's easy to adjust and out of harm's way. It is the only stabilizer with 3 fully adjustable circuits, mounts in minutes in most cases and can be moved from bike to bike relatively easy.

http://www.revlimiterracing.co....html

CBRF4i 07-25-2004 03:46 PM

Are they worth the 300 or so bucks they go for? I dont ride that hard. Im more of a cruiser type person on a sportbike, 85% of the time im taking it easy and not pushing my bike.

Just would like to learn more about them. Always hear people talkin about them so i might as well learn about them before i make a decision to get one or not.

EGlovr 07-25-2004 03:54 PM

well imo its more of an insurance thing. you may be put in a situation where you need to react quickly; having that damper there in that situation may save you a few hundred dollars in repairs or even your life.

personally, to me i think its worth it. kinda pricey, but id rather be safe than sorry.

green98civic 07-25-2004 04:23 PM

Re: (EGlovr)
 
so are they the same thing a stablizer and a damper? Or are they different??? On everybodys opinion should i get one for my 98 GSXR??

SiR HatchAlot 07-25-2004 04:56 PM

everyone i know has one, and actually nobody will even wheelie my bike bc i dont have one... i know tons of guys who swear by them and they are very good riders and have been around a while.

i ride with mostly stunters and they think im nuts for doing wheelies and endo's without a damper, what it does is make the steering not as sloppy and easy to turn.

also if you wheelie without one , the front wheel is going everywhich way but straight.

but if you have one, when the wheel is up in the air, its straight as an arrow.

im gonna get one eventually, ohlins is supposed to be one of the best.

CBRF4i 07-25-2004 05:19 PM

Ya and what does it cost? 450?

I'll consider it for when i get my tax return, Kinda early to plan for that but whatever.

Jinya1004 07-25-2004 07:09 PM

Re: (CBRF4i)
 
I'd recommend a Scotts. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

I want my paycheck so I can buy some more stuff for my bike. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

EGlovr 07-26-2004 05:54 AM

Re: (Jinya1004)
 
did you ever sell your brothers bike?

Jinya1004 07-26-2004 07:01 AM

Re: (EGlovr)
 
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...TNkZmQzMXk1NDE

Thats me in the Black Circuit Shitty Shirt with the Sunglasses. I'm riding the sucka now. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

__37__ 07-26-2004 11:25 AM

Re: (Jinya1004)
 
after my first tank slapper about 3 weeks ago I went ahead and ordered the scotts used for 300. You may be wondering is it worth it, but after your first tank slapper you will wish you had one. brown stains in the shorts are hard to get out

ScareyH22A 07-26-2004 11:30 AM

Re: (__37__)
 
I have a Ohlins damper on my R6 and when I ride my other buddies' bike w/o one, I get kind of nervous. I feel a lot more confident with it. I think most will agree. Plus if it saves you from even one tank slapper, it'll pay for itself ten folds.

ScareyH22A 07-26-2004 11:37 AM

Re: (ScareyH22A)
 
A friend with a RC51 just installed a Hyperpro Active Control Damper. It's awesome, it works kinda like the electronic damper on his CBR1000RR but its not electronics. It steers quick at slow speeds and tightens up when the bars are moved quickly.

I have the Ohlins and its got the same damping rate at any speed. So when you're going slow, its kinda stiff. But it is adjustable and so is the Hyperpro.

Pelican 07-26-2004 12:55 PM

Re: (ScareyH22A)
 
any reccomendations of linear vs radial?

EGlovr 07-26-2004 02:57 PM

from what ive heard the more compact style (read: scotts) are favored bc of their interchangability. all you need is a mounting kit for whatever bike you're riding, and you're set. imo the piston style looks better to me.


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