Notices
Honda Motorcycles Honda Powersports: riding, maintenance, gear, and safety.

anyone going to Superbike School April 29th?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-20-2007, 06:20 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
modulo_s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: anchorage, ak
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default anyone going to Superbike School April 29th?

i'm enrolled in the level 1 class @ streets of willow springs. wondering if anyone on the forums was going and if they would want to meet up. [:D] i'm kinda new to the area



Modified by modulo_s at 7:51 PM 4/20/2007
Old 04-20-2007, 07:14 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
marmaladedad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: San Gabriel, CA
Posts: 9,817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Have fun! Remember to stay hydrated. And take advantage of all the food they provide and sodium and potassium pills.
Old 04-20-2007, 07:21 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
modulo_s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: anchorage, ak
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

they offer that stuff? i thought they only offered food/etc to the 2 day camps. i'm only enrolled in the 1 day.. i'm poor
Old 04-20-2007, 08:29 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jasper_db1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Aliso Viejo, Ca, USA
Posts: 3,265
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: anyone going to Superbike School April 29th? (modulo_s)

I'm in Level 2 on the 28th.

Snacks - fruit, chips, salsa, etc are onhand and "free" to eat between sessions. Water and lunch is provided although I recommend you bring your own if you've got an appitite.

Water is also provided and should be consumed in massive quantities. They also recommend the sodium and potassium pills. Take both or eat the salty chips and bananas. Crams suck.

Bring sun block
Old 04-21-2007, 02:36 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
marmaladedad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: San Gabriel, CA
Posts: 9,817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yep. Snacks are all provided (unless they've changed their policy). I would suggest, though, that you refrain from eating too much. Enough to keep your energy levels up, but don't stuff yourself.
Old 04-21-2007, 02:44 PM
  #6  
Member
 
ninja 6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,919
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (marmaladeboy)

I wish. How much does it cosT?
Old 04-21-2007, 02:47 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jasper_db1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Aliso Viejo, Ca, USA
Posts: 3,265
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (ap)

six-fiddy
Old 04-21-2007, 05:35 PM
  #8  
Member
 
ninja 6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,919
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Jasper_db1)

man that is a pretty penny
Old 04-21-2007, 06:54 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
marmaladedad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: San Gabriel, CA
Posts: 9,817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (ap)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ap &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man that is a pretty penny </TD></TR></TABLE>
At what price, knowledge and skill?
Old 04-21-2007, 09:56 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
big pete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,395
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (marmaladeboy)

Have fun!

I'll be at Infineon on the 27th
Old 04-28-2007, 08:42 PM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jasper_db1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Aliso Viejo, Ca, USA
Posts: 3,265
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re:

Good god it was hot out there today!

I did not manage to get a knee down but I my riding did improve - especially with the 3-step and wide view drills. Things really got cookin when I learned the "tip-up" manuver which cut 5 seconds a lap off my previous fast lap!

While I didnt get a knee down, I did scrape both toe sliders. I have a habit of pulling my inside leg up when I get close to the ground. No, my feet weren't dangling off the pegs Daffy Duck style

The new Kawasaki Ninja ZX6r is an amazing machine. It doesn't feel as powerful as the GSXR600 since the Suzuki seems to build power a little earlier but the Ninja hauls *** up top with pleanty of over-rev which really came in hand going into turn 10 if you get the right drive out of 8. The brakes worked very well when we were allowed to use them (5th session was ***** to the wall). The most surprising thing was that the bikes were completely stock except for the tires - surprising because the previous generation 636's used all sorts of performance and suspension goodies and the new bike still feels better. It turns very well, it feels super light, and stable.

My only gripe about the Ninja was the gas tank. The fookin thing rocked a 1/2" side to side!!! The mechanics said that there are rubber pads but those fall out which causes the play. Surprisingly, I only noticed the tank shift a few times @ speed.


Modified by Jasper_db1 at 5:53 AM 4/29/2007
Old 04-28-2007, 09:17 PM
  #12  
Member
 
ninja 6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,919
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Re: (Jasper_db1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jasper_db1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The new Kawasaki Ninja ZX6r is an amazing machine. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree
Old 04-29-2007, 07:28 AM
  #13  
My Name is Nobody
 
MSchu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 14,438
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Re: (Jasper_db1)

Good stuff duy.. Getting the knee down is about as important as is doing wheelies. do a complete write up in a separate thread when you get a chance, complete with exercises for these mugs
Old 04-29-2007, 12:34 PM
  #14  
Junior Member
 
.xcalibur.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: So, Cal
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Would you mind sharing the 3-step drills and Tip-up methods?
Old 04-30-2007, 08:11 AM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jasper_db1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Aliso Viejo, Ca, USA
Posts: 3,265
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (.xcalibur.)



Here's an extreme example of Loris executing the tip-up manuver. Notice how he's tipped the bike upright while his body remains low? This lets him roll on the gas sooner since he's using the fatter part of the tire. In slower turns, this tool can tighten a line.

The next time you watch MotoGP, watch how Danni and Loris stand the bikes up first and then their bodys follow.

This tool works best on corners where a good drive is key such as turns 2, 8 and 14 @ streets of willow.

The three step is an expansion to the 2-step drill taught in level 1.

1) you spot the turn in point
2) when you're comfortable that you're going to hit/make the turn in point, you shift your attention to the apex.
3) when you're sure you're going to hit your apex, you shift up to the exit or the next turn-in point.

This smooths the flow of information to your brain and therefore your hands.

My biggest problem was that I was skipping step 2 and going straight to 3 thinking that "looking through the turn" would guide me through the corner. What ended up happening was that I'd turn in too early, realize that I was going to run over the curbing which triggered the roll-off/stand up, survival reactions. When I changed my thinking to the three-step, I was able to cut proper lines though the corners.
Old 04-30-2007, 08:13 AM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
marmaladedad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: San Gabriel, CA
Posts: 9,817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for the descriptive write-up! Makes me want to try out Level 2 toooooo.

Has modulo posted his review yet?
Old 04-30-2007, 08:30 AM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jasper_db1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Aliso Viejo, Ca, USA
Posts: 3,265
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (Jasper_db1)

Another drill we worked on was the changing lines drill where we'd ride around the inside, then the outside, then the middle of the track while looking down range. What this shows is how wide the track really is. What it also lets you do is pickup new reference points so when you do find yourself out in those areas, you're not lost.

This opened the door to a lot more passing since I knew how wide the track was in those areas and I knew where the turn in points for the modified lines were.

Remember in level 1 when they tapped the x's on the ground for the turn in points? This drill helps you create your own X's. This may not help street riding on a road you've never been on but it sure does apply to the track.
Old 04-30-2007, 08:37 AM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
 
marmaladedad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: San Gabriel, CA
Posts: 9,817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I hated those x's when I first started out. I kept thinking, "There's no way I can turn that late."
Old 04-30-2007, 10:30 AM
  #19  
My Name is Nobody
 
MSchu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 14,438
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: anyone going to Superbike School April 29th? (modulo_s)

J/K
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
citrus3000psi
Acura Integra Type-R
103
06-10-2007 06:06 AM
neveronlines2k
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
10-25-2002 09:04 AM
funkylemons
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
28
05-13-2002 04:23 AM
Alaskan98ITR406
Acura Integra Type-R
3
07-18-2001 10:19 PM



Quick Reply: anyone going to Superbike School April 29th?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:29 PM.