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doublethink 12-20-2010 08:45 AM

Real curb weight, engineless.
 
Official specs from Honda.com and dealer stickers are claiming as follows:

Curb Weight (lbs)
Base Model Manual: 2637
Base Model Auto: 2690
EX Model Manual: 2650
EX Model Auto: 2703

And the navigation adds 4 lbs to any weight.

Spoon is claiming to have shed 220lbs off the car's weight in their $8,000 "package", which would theoretically yield:

Base Model: 2417 lbs
EX Model: 2430 lbs

However, they also have NOT removed the hybrid components. This is what I am most curious about. Anyone else in a shop who has one of these and a scale have any numbers to share?

Looking for some real numbers, speculations I can make on my own. Thanks!


Citation for the Spoon claim from Road and Track: http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...on-sports-cr-z

JonnyCoupe 12-20-2010 09:06 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
100V system in the insight, CR-Z and will be Jazz = IMA is 56kg all in, inveter, motor, battery, cables.

Bwill9886 12-20-2010 09:42 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 

Originally Posted by JonnyCoupe (Post 44262082)
IMA is 56kg all in, inveter, motor, battery, cables.

Bisimoto did some weighing. I can't remember the numbers exactly, but I believe it came to around what JonnyCoupe posted.

CRVRX 12-21-2010 05:20 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
As soon as I get my scales back I'm going to weigh the KR-Z to get an idea.I will post the results.

get RIGHT 12-21-2010 02:16 PM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
Bisi said complete IMA in CRZ was 79lbs.

Bwill9886 12-21-2010 04:42 PM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 

Originally Posted by CRVRX (Post 44268025)
As soon as I get my scales back I'm going to weigh the KR-Z to get an idea.I will post the results.

Sweet, do share.


Originally Posted by get RIGHT (Post 44271336)
Bisi said complete IMA in CRZ was 79lbs.

Ah, there you have it.

JonnyCoupe 12-22-2010 12:52 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
My source is the A2mac1 autoreverse system where every single part of a car is disassembled, photographed and weighed.

79lbs doesnt cover everything you can remove when removing IMA.

doublethink 12-22-2010 09:37 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 

Originally Posted by CRVRX (Post 44268025)
As soon as I get my scales back I'm going to weigh the KR-Z to get an idea.I will post the results.

Thank you! Very curious!

trujilloegcoupe 12-25-2010 06:00 PM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
sounds interesting i want to see the numbers

heel_touge 01-01-2011 05:59 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
In for numbers.

Mugen_socks 01-01-2011 08:26 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
I would bet it's around 100Lbs. all in all. those electric comps. arn't light

doublethink 01-17-2011 10:46 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
Still holding out for a confirmation on this.

TIA

WOW ! 01-17-2011 12:01 PM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
bump in for this

WOW ! 01-17-2011 12:01 PM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
bump in for this

alollini 01-18-2011 02:21 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
Mission Motors full IMA system including Battery + 12V output is 27Kg

Stock 16 inch wheel + tire is 15.5 Kg short stock nuts 32 g (verified)

I ordered :
OZ Allegeritta 17 inch + tire Conti Sport contact 3
i hope to have total weight wheel + tire under 14.6 kg.

I use aluminium 2024 alliage RAYS weight 23g

Rear seat + Back total weight is 8.7 Kg (easy to remove 3 nuts)
however this looks ugly w/o rear seats, i would like to have the US spec parts that fits in the rear seats place. ==> contact me. (i hope those parts are lighter)

Manual of the CR-Z in french indicate a weight of the rear battery pack NiMh of approx 100kg, however this is in the text to explain car balance, and not in a spec sheet.

WanganRunner 01-19-2011 06:00 PM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 
The whole IMA system with battery and motor and everything is less than 100lbs?

That's a pretty fantastic hp/lb yield.

JonnyCoupe 01-20-2011 02:58 AM

Re: Real curb weight, engineless.
 

Originally Posted by alollini (Post 44451188)

Manual of the CR-Z in french indicate a weight of the rear battery pack NiMh of approx 100kg, however this is in the text to explain car balance, and not in a spec sheet.

Thats wrong. Prius pack is no where near that yet its twice the capacity.


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