sohc zc (non vtec) vs. d16a6 difference
07-07-2006, 07:09 PM
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sohc zc (non vtec) vs. d16a6 difference
I've searched around and looked. Found rumors and some completely stupid remarks about the difference between the two. The only thing that I am willing to believe is that the zc cam/camshaft has a higher lift than the d16a6. Is this true?
The power difference is supposedly d16a6:108hp and zc sohc:120hp but is there really a difference or is it just some bs?
The power difference is supposedly d16a6:108hp and zc sohc:120hp but is there really a difference or is it just some bs?
07-07-2006, 07:15 PM
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Re: sohc zc (non vtec) vs. d16a6 difference (CrxHf-Rider)
I've always thought that the zc's valves were like 1mm bigger.....Maybe that's why you can't use that head in NASA?? Where's prkiller? He would know about the NASA part...
Anyone know the real truth?
Anyone know the real truth?
07-07-2006, 07:15 PM
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Re: sohc zc (non vtec) vs. d16a6 difference (CrxHf-Rider)
the cam is more agressive,it is the same damn engine otherwise , not a better flowing head, not a bump in compression, just a different cam. oh and it is rated at 120. btw i like mine, its kinda fun
07-07-2006, 07:24 PM
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Re: sohc zc (Got_soy)
I was just wondering because I bought a zc cam and camshaft and it said that it was better than the si. I read into it and it said that the exhaust part has a higher lift giving an extra 10 ponies. So if it works I'll be happy. I only paid like 50 bucks for it.
07-07-2006, 07:27 PM
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Re: sohc zc (Got_soy)
Also since I would be installing it into my si engine; which I am putting into my hf as a replacement, is it very complicated to do i.e. do I have to make any adjustments or does it just go right in?
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engine at tdc, you have to torque it down right, and then adjust your valves. there's online manuals telling you how to do it.
oh, also, my sohc zc came out of a '92 integra, no real difference other than the headgasket from a d16z6 (slight advantage) and a "cool" valve cover we didn't get in america.
oh, also, my sohc zc came out of a '92 integra, no real difference other than the headgasket from a d16z6 (slight advantage) and a "cool" valve cover we didn't get in america.
07-08-2006, 08:22 AM
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Re: (CrxHf-Rider)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CrxHf-Rider »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where can I get the online manual from?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ONLINE!
And I would probably bet you that you did not search. Lazyass.
This has been covered many times. Everytime one of the noobies gets an acount.
I searched it and came up with all kinds of info.
Try Again
ONLINE!
And I would probably bet you that you did not search. Lazyass.
This has been covered many times. Everytime one of the noobies gets an acount.
I searched it and came up with all kinds of info.
Try Again
07-08-2006, 11:12 AM
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What is the comp ratio of a d16a6? i read somewhere the d16a6 was 9.1:1 and the sohc zc was 9.2:1, just want to clear this up for myself as maybe the searching i did was wrong.
07-08-2006, 11:26 AM
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Re: sohc zc (Got_soy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Got_soy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the cam is more agressive,it is the same damn engine otherwise , not a better flowing head, not a bump in compression, just a different cam. oh and it is rated at 120. btw i like mine, its kinda fun</TD></TR></TABLE>the cam has never been proven to be better. an accurate measuring tool was never used when comparing...
Mistabone is in the process of doing an accurate measurement right now. we should have difinitive proof here in a little bit
other than the questionable cam, the motor is IDENTICAL to an a6
Mistabone is in the process of doing an accurate measurement right now. we should have difinitive proof here in a little bit
other than the questionable cam, the motor is IDENTICAL to an a6
07-08-2006, 12:53 PM
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Re: sohc zc (ryan89crx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ryan89crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the cam has never been proven to be better. an accurate measuring tool was never used when comparing...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't recall you being there...
I don't recall you being there...
07-08-2006, 04:54 PM
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Re: sohc zc (davens)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davens »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't recall you being there...</TD></TR></TABLE>care to prove me wrong?
show your testing procedure and the tools used, along with the final results and ill gladly retract my statement
show your testing procedure and the tools used, along with the final results and ill gladly retract my statement
07-08-2006, 05:50 PM
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Re: sohc zc (ryan89crx)
You have no idea what was done, you make a dumbass statement like that...and you think I have something to prove?
Keep your retraction. I'm not going to waste my time.
Keep your retraction. I'm not going to waste my time.
07-08-2006, 06:14 PM
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blah blah blah...........a6 has 108hp 100tq
zc has 118hp 108tq.
theres your difference. and yes its the cam. every ******* nut and bolt and part is the same in both engines, swap away.
zc has 118hp 108tq.
theres your difference. and yes its the cam. every ******* nut and bolt and part is the same in both engines, swap away.
07-08-2006, 08:24 PM
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Re: sohc zc (davens)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davens »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have no idea what was done, you make a dumbass statement like that...and you think I have something to prove?
Keep your retraction. I'm not going to waste my time.</TD></TR></TABLE>something to prove? WTF are you talking about? until the lobes are PROVEN to be different its just heresay.
i based my statement on what i have read online from other sources. is it right? who knows. you saying that its wrong is the same damn thing. there are differing opinions, and no proof so far either way, yet everyone is supposed to believe you because "you say so"
ya ******* right...
like i said, prove that the ZC cam is better. without any accurate measurements its like i said before, heresay...
and im not on anyone's "nuts", i just want difinitive proof that the cam is better. plain and simple. ok, he measured it. but without explaining his measuring method and results it doesnt mean ****. thats like saying your car is more powerful than somone elses because it feels stronger based on your butt dyno and not having real dyno sheets...
Keep your retraction. I'm not going to waste my time.</TD></TR></TABLE>something to prove? WTF are you talking about? until the lobes are PROVEN to be different its just heresay.
i based my statement on what i have read online from other sources. is it right? who knows. you saying that its wrong is the same damn thing. there are differing opinions, and no proof so far either way, yet everyone is supposed to believe you because "you say so"
ya ******* right...
like i said, prove that the ZC cam is better. without any accurate measurements its like i said before, heresay...
and im not on anyone's "nuts", i just want difinitive proof that the cam is better. plain and simple. ok, he measured it. but without explaining his measuring method and results it doesnt mean ****. thats like saying your car is more powerful than somone elses because it feels stronger based on your butt dyno and not having real dyno sheets...
07-08-2006, 08:27 PM
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Re: sohc zc (ryan89crx)
dude, the motors are identical, so where else would the power come from, there isn't a v-tec wizard in the head saying, "i command more power, venne vetti v-techi" the only other place is the cam
07-08-2006, 08:28 PM
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Re: sohc zc (nappyroots827)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nappyroots827 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude, the motors are identical, so where else would the power come from, there isn't a v-tec wizard in the head saying, "i command more power, venne vetti v-techi" the only other place is the cam</TD></TR></TABLE>process of elimination doesnt mean anything either, that still doesnt show how the cam is better, and what lift/duration differences there are