Shaking issue and CV clearance
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Shaking issue and CV clearance
Okay, story made as short as possible:
Motor swap to B16A from D15B2.
Hectic shake
Replaced passenger side CV
Shake was better, still noticeable under left hand turns
Replaced driver side CV
shake was temporarily gone
Left turn shake is back
The shake is definitely from my driver side axle. However, what is causing my axle to go bad so quickly is the mystery. I believe I may have 'no name' engine mounts. I believed them to be older HASport or AVID motor mounts when I purchased the motor. I was probably fooled, that's my fault for being new. However, would that cause my issue? Could my half shaft be faulty? Would a bad wheel bearing cause my axle to go bad so quickly?
Please note: The issue was 100% fixed when the axle was replaced. I just need to determine the root of axle failure.
Thank you. I hope this clears up some of the responses on this thread. I have updated this original post 4+ times over the past 10 months.
Motor swap to B16A from D15B2.
Hectic shake
Replaced passenger side CV
Shake was better, still noticeable under left hand turns
Replaced driver side CV
shake was temporarily gone
Left turn shake is back
The shake is definitely from my driver side axle. However, what is causing my axle to go bad so quickly is the mystery. I believe I may have 'no name' engine mounts. I believed them to be older HASport or AVID motor mounts when I purchased the motor. I was probably fooled, that's my fault for being new. However, would that cause my issue? Could my half shaft be faulty? Would a bad wheel bearing cause my axle to go bad so quickly?
Please note: The issue was 100% fixed when the axle was replaced. I just need to determine the root of axle failure.
Thank you. I hope this clears up some of the responses on this thread. I have updated this original post 4+ times over the past 10 months.
Last edited by Freemananana; 07-23-2014 at 10:52 AM.
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Re: Shaking issue and CV clearance
More info please!
What mounts?
What year and model car are the axles for?
What front knuckles do you have on and did you remove the dust rings?
Are you lowered - if so, how far?
Wheels should spin easily when up in the air and in neutral.
It shouldn't keep on spinning like the rears would, but it shouldn't fight you when spinning the fronts.
What mounts?
What year and model car are the axles for?
What front knuckles do you have on and did you remove the dust rings?
Are you lowered - if so, how far?
Wheels should spin easily when up in the air and in neutral.
It shouldn't keep on spinning like the rears would, but it shouldn't fight you when spinning the fronts.
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Re: Shaking issue and CV clearance
More info please!
What mounts?
What year and model car are the axles for?
What front knuckles do you have on and did you remove the dust rings?
Are you lowered - if so, how far?
Wheels should spin easily when up in the air and in neutral.
It shouldn't keep on spinning like the rears would, but it shouldn't fight you when spinning the fronts.
What mounts?
What year and model car are the axles for?
What front knuckles do you have on and did you remove the dust rings?
Are you lowered - if so, how far?
Wheels should spin easily when up in the air and in neutral.
It shouldn't keep on spinning like the rears would, but it shouldn't fight you when spinning the fronts.
DA Integra Axles and Knuckles with removed dust rings
Stock ride height
The fronts don't spin freely. I'm not expecting a bicycle tire here, but it's pretty tough from what I remember. I'll check again tomorrow if it doesn't rain.
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Re: Shaking issue and CV clearance
I kind of wonder how it would spin with the axle removed and maybe just spinning the axle in the trans.
Only thing lI can figure a brake piston locking up? wheel bearing on it's way out? Or transmission really not acting right?
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Looks like you have all the right parts - assuming you have the correct intermediate shaft.
I kind of wonder how it would spin with the axle removed and maybe just spinning the axle in the trans.
Only thing lI can figure a brake piston locking up? wheel bearing on it's way out? Or transmission really not acting right?
I kind of wonder how it would spin with the axle removed and maybe just spinning the axle in the trans.
Only thing lI can figure a brake piston locking up? wheel bearing on it's way out? Or transmission really not acting right?
The wheel bearing could be the culprit. I have no real experience with them. But what would you say constitutes a transmission not acting right? It shifts smooth through all 5 and reverse. I was actually surprised that 3rd didn't grind at all. I'll admit I have to give it a little more gas than I did in my D15 to get it to go, but I think that is the ACT clutch. It just grips faster so there isn't as much 'play' in releasing the pedal. So I usually rev a little more verses letting it stumble and bog in 1st.
Any tips on checking for a bad wheel bearing? I'll start researching now.
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i've had a simile problem where we put in a wrong axle. Had an extra only lying around and decided to put it in. bolted in fine but caused all sorts of vibration at low speeds. not sure what car it was for.
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Jack the wheel at the corner of the wheel bearing in question up off the ground. Grab the top and the bottom (12 o'clock & 6 o'clock) of the tire and try to wiggle it by pulling and pushing in opposing directions from top to bottom. If there is any play (ie the wheel feels like it is moving independantly of the suspension/knuckle) then most likely your wheel bearing is shot.
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Jack the wheel at the corner of the wheel bearing in question up off the ground. Grab the top and the bottom (12 o'clock & 6 o'clock) of the tire and try to wiggle it by pulling and pushing in opposing directions from top to bottom. If there is any play (ie the wheel feels like it is moving independantly of the suspension/knuckle) then most likely your wheel bearing is shot.
But thanks. I'll try that and post back my results.
Also, update. Took it up to 70? Didn't feel nearly as bad today. It's sort of hit or miss. Also, I spun the drivers side wheel with a little effort. Not as hard as I remember, but it does feel like it's easier to spin in some spots than others. Even in neutral.
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Sure is. That's what I may be leading towards. My motor has HASport mounts. (That sounds funny has has haha) Anyways, so I know it should sit fine. What axle do you reccommend? I will probably pull this one and replace it. But I have to get it done over a weekend because this is my daily.
The other side, half shaft and axle, went into the knuckle MUCH easier than this side. I had a hard time aligning this side to the upper control arm and getting the axle in.
The other side, half shaft and axle, went into the knuckle MUCH easier than this side. I had a hard time aligning this side to the upper control arm and getting the axle in.
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PLEASE get an oem one, rebuild it and install it, should solve this problem, have the same combo in 2 cars, never had this happen. good luck and let us know. BTW get both if u can rebuild then install. done
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I'm quick to give advice, but when it comes to fixing things of my own it takes a little bit longer.
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An update and a slight change.
I replaced that axle and the vibration is much better. Now I get a similar vibration when I turn left at 25+ MPH (Long turns, I'm not driving like a mad man). Maybe my other axle needs to be replaced? I also loaded the car up (5 people) and it was vibrating much worse at all speeds.
By myself, the vibration is only left turns. With about 1000 lbs it vibrates at 35 MPH constantly. I may have some axle binding on the other side too.
Maybe these were just the wrong axles from the get go...?
I replaced that axle and the vibration is much better. Now I get a similar vibration when I turn left at 25+ MPH (Long turns, I'm not driving like a mad man). Maybe my other axle needs to be replaced? I also loaded the car up (5 people) and it was vibrating much worse at all speeds.
By myself, the vibration is only left turns. With about 1000 lbs it vibrates at 35 MPH constantly. I may have some axle binding on the other side too.
Maybe these were just the wrong axles from the get go...?
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I had issues when i bought aftermarket replacement axles, turns out they were slightly thicker and were hitting when turning left. It was causing crazy vibrations that progressively worsened as the driveshaft wore out.
Took me ages to figure out what the problem was because when the car was jacked up the clearance between the axle and where it was hitting looked fine, haha.
Took me ages to figure out what the problem was because when the car was jacked up the clearance between the axle and where it was hitting looked fine, haha.
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Thanks for the input. I'll change out the other side this weekend if I can get to it. Hopefully it is just a shady axle gone bad.
Is it AutoZone or Advanced Discount Auto parts that has life time axles? Or both? Or O'Reillys? I have all 3, and I'm not kidding, at the same intersection.
Is it AutoZone or Advanced Discount Auto parts that has life time axles? Or both? Or O'Reillys? I have all 3, and I'm not kidding, at the same intersection.
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