projsectEF

has anyone done a d16z6 swap into their ef?
I was wondering where you got your obd0 to obd1 jumper harness?

I went to a local race shop near my house and told them I wanted an obd0 to obd1
jumper harness. The dude looks at me wierd and said " you mean obd1 to obd0"
I told him I have a 91 civic with a 94 d16z6 motor.
so he orders the harness. about a month later ( today) It finally came in.
But it was the wrong one. It wouldn't fit in my obd1 ecu and my obd0 original harness. but It did fit a obd0 ecu and obd1 original harness, I think he gave me obd1 to obd0.

I returned to the shop and told them it was the wrong one, and told him again that I needed an obd0 to obd1 harness.
and this is what he says " you can't jump forward from obd0 to obd1, because some sensors won't be read. it he right?

I think I know what i'm talking about, I mean I see people with typer r motors and other obd1 and 2 motors swaps in their ef. I'm just ****** mad!

SVOboy

He's wrong. Anyway, you can buy them allover, or make one yourself.

I made my own, so that's my preference, but other will chime in to tell you where they got theirs.

dr_latino999

You can either make your own, or contact the good fellow's at http://www.rywire.com

projsectEF

thanks man i needed some reassurance. I hope the shop gives me my money back or at least store credit.

projsectEF

well I just found out that I cannot return this ****. It says no returns on special order or electrical parts. I'm ****** pissed off!
I didn't even want the obd1 to obd0 harness, the ****** dude tricked me into believing it was actually called obd1 to obd0!

What do you guys think I should do? I spent 190 on that piece of crap!

anyone on here want this, it's never been used.

dr_latino999

Hmm, explain to them they sold you the wrong part on their advice, you want a refund, nuff said.

SVOboy

Just demand it, threaten to take it up with the BBB, and if the still expletive with you, report them, that's BS.

190 bucks too, dang.

theinfamouskonrad

If you need the correct one projsectEF i have it. Pm'd you.

projsectEF

well thanks guys I'll try all your advices.

Rywire

What shop was it??? Not many people sell 1-0, just me, and a couple others... We can get you a 0-1, and if its wrong we will get you the correct item!

Ryan

projsectEF

I don't think I should say what shop it is just yet. But If they don't give my money back or at least store credit I will tell you guys what shop it is.

where is your shop located. and how much for the 0-1 jumper harness?

Rywire

all info here
http://www.rywire.com

we have lots of good reviews on this site

baboracus

i asking this before looking into the website, but if you had an OBD0 and then swapped it to an OBD1 wwhat type of sensors do you have to add on?

91SiZ6

I'm running an OBDI Z6 in my '91 Si with RyWire's OBD0->OBDI jumper and distributor conversion. The work is great and the customer service is outstanding. The guy at that shop doesn't know what he's talking about and he just cost you money. Tell them that this was not what you asked for, take a print out of RyWire's site with you showing that the OBD0->OBDI conversion harness is indeed available, and politely ask for a refund or store credit. Like others have said, threaten them with the BBB if they act up and follow through if needs be. Then order your stuff through RyWire.

You have to add a whopping seven wires plus one ground, extend the fan switch from the back of the A6 block to the thermostat housing on the Z6 block as well as switching to the correct plug, you have to lengthen the IAT wires a few inches for better clearance, and you have to put the grey OBDI injector clips on (removing the resitor box at the same time) so you can run the OBDI injectors to make the smog man happy. The wires that need to be ran are explained in the instructions that come with the conversion harness but they're three wires for the VTEC solinoid and four wires for the O2 sensor. No biggie at all, I even built my own subharnesses from looking at the ones on RyWire.com. I did have to use a sacrificial Z6 engine harness for all of this. You'll also need a Z6 distributor, 4 wire O2 sensor (both available from RyWire), and a P28 ECU.

mahatma

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91SiZ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">extend the fan switch from the back of the A6 block to the thermostat housing on the Z6 block as well as switching to the correct plug</TD></TR></TABLE>
as well as everything else said in that post

i only point that out because people never mention this when discussing obd1 swaps and it had me twisted for a while lol

projsectEF

how do I threaten them with bbb? does that mean I will threaten to report them to the bbb?

Was your swap and conversion easy? thanks for the advice.

Rywire

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mahatma &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> as well as everything else said in that post

i only point that out because people never mention this when discussing obd1 swaps and it had me twisted for a while lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really? We have it in our directions

mahatma

yeah mine didn't come with directions, a local guy made it....

it's good you guys mention it though. usually on here i see "you need o2 sensor, ecu, dizzy, injectors, & harness" that's it.

projsectEF

can someone explain what the bbb is? If im going to threaten them with it I should at least now what it is.

91SiZ6

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Aye. I actually got most of my conversion tech from your website last year.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projsectEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can someone explain what the bbb is? If im going to threaten them with it I should at least now what it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

BBB = Better Business Bureau = http://www.bbb.org

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projsectEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do I threaten them with bbb? does that mean I will threaten to report them to the bbb?

Was your swap and conversion easy? thanks for the advice.</TD></TR></TABLE>

By simply saying, "...am I going to have to report this to the Better Business Bureau?" Save this though. You get more bees with honey than with vinegar, know what I'm saying? Wait until they give you a reason to say it.

The conversion was easy. I just followed the directions that come with the harness and the distributor adaptors made life a lot easier. I just made the VTEC and O2 subharnesses, which took a few hours but looks pretty much stock and the motor fired right up after priming the oil and fuel pumps. The swap was pretty straight forward too. There were some minor snags here and there, but you have those with pretty much any swap. I did have a swap knowledgable friend with a nice tool selection helping me, though. All in all, I'm very pleased with this motor and the work I put into it.

projsectEF

sounds good. thanks man. I'll try to get everything cleared up with the shop.
then order my obd0 to obd1 jumper harness from rywires.

man thats what I should of done.

ekslax

dude thats some bs right there

91SiZ6

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projsectEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds good. thanks man. I'll try to get everything cleared up with the shop.
then order my obd0 to obd1 jumper harness from rywires.

man thats what I should of done. </TD></TR></TABLE>

We all live an learn.

And you're very welcome.

Outlawzor

Hey i need a obd0 to obd1 harness conversion with the extra clip for 4 wire o2 sensor an vtec wires ???? anyone got one for cheap i dont wanna pay full price if i dont gotta :S

projsectEF

I guess you can order on from rywire.com. alot of people rec. this place.

I don't know what clips you are taling about but I think they come with the odb0 to obd1 harness.