del_soldier93

ive been searchin around for a few hours and all ive found are instructions and write-ups for gsr clusters into 90-91 ef's..... anyone know how different the wiring is from 88-89 to 90-91? or does anyone have a link to a write-up for the installation of a dc cluster into an 88-89 ef?

black0hatch

its pretty easy all you do is search for wire pinouts for your 88-89 then you search for wire pinouts for the cluster you have then you match up wires. dont forget your gona need an electric vss and the plug for it. i did it in a 88 crx so i know theres wire pinouts with pictures just search for them.

EFRue57

here are the pin outs for the 88-89 cluster





and here are the pin outs for the 94-99 GSR cluster. sorry I don't have pics of this so i'm just typing the pin outs.

B1 Red/Blue----------------------------------Fuel gauge
B2 empty
B3 Yellow/Black------------------------------Seat belt light
B4 Green/Yellow------------------------------Low fuel light - Not used unless you use a 90-93 integra fuel level guage
B5 empty
B6 Orange-----------------------------------Speedometer - Splice in with signal from electronic vss.
B7 Blue/Black--------------------------------Trunk/hatch open
B8 empty
B9 Red--------------------------------------Brightness
B10 Red/Black--------------------------------Gauge lights
B11 Black/White color varies-------------------VSS - Run the electronic vss to here and attach to b6.
B12 empty
B13 Green/Red-1 Silver Stripe------------------Left turn signal
B14 Green/Yellow-1 Silver Stripe---------------Right turn signal
B15 Red/Green--------------------------------High Beams
B16 Green/Red--------------------------------Emergency brake

Connector C / 13P
C1 empty
C2 empty
C3 empty
C4 Yellow------------------------------------Dimmer
C5 empty
C6 Black Black-------------------------------Ground
C7 Yellow/green------------------------------Coolant Temp
C8 empty
C9 White/Blue--------------------------------Battery
C10 empty
C11 Yellow/Red--------------------------------Oil pressure
C12 Green/Orange-----------------------------Check engine
C13 Blue--------------------------------------Tachometer

EFRue57

also i think you are gonna need the 90-91 gauge cluster cover to cover the gsr cluster. iirc the 88-89 doesn't fit.

ef9oba

mine

Rease3

88-89 clusters are smaller than 90-91 clusters i thought. im sure above is 90-91

EFRue57

the gauge cluster cover is, but not necessarily the car. so like I said above, he will need the 90-91 cluster cover to fit over the gsr cluster.

Rease3

oh sry dude i was searching for this but thanks for the answer. now i can get my gsr cluster for my 88 sedan.

del_soldier93

thanks everyone for the quick response! now i got everything i need!

DCRB

it does infact fit, you just have to grind the plastic lip thing off of the top of the cluster. i did it

EFRue57

good to know, to the OP, okay, then does fit with modification, lol.

DCRB

sadly with modification. much cleaner looking, IMO to convert to the 90-91 style dash set up. that is what i did, i think i will like it better as the first gen (zenki?? lol 88-89) ed's made viability on the cluster difficult due to the boxyness of the cluster cover.

lvmevo

anyone know if the jdm cluster would have the same pin outs. i have a chance at getting a jdm itr cluster for my ef and would like to know if someone could point toward some jdm pin outs.

del_soldier93

Alrighty, well i picked up a 90-91 gauge cluster cover to do the gsr cluster swap, but now i stumbled upon another problem... i pulled the plugs for the cluster from a car at the junk yard and it seems like only a few wires are matching up with the integra pinouts i found... did i maybe pull these plugs out of a different year car? does it matter if the plugs came from an LS or a GSR teg? heres some pics of the plugs...




what is this empty spot? did i forget a plug?

del_soldier93

pinouts online-----------------------MINE (*marks different from pinout*)
B1 Red/Blue-------------------------red/blue
B2 empty---------------------------*light green/red*
B3 Yellow/Black----------------------*yellow/white*
B4 Green/Yellow---------------------*blue/white*
B5 empty---------------------------empty
B6 Orange--------------------------orange
B7 Blue/Black-----------------------*green*
B8 empty---------------------------*blue/red*
B9 Red-----------------------------red
B10 Red/Black-----------------------red/black
B11 Black/White color varies---------black/yellow
B12 empty--------------------------empty
B13 Green/Red-1 Silver Stripe--------*green/blue*
B14 Green/Yellow-1 Silver Stripe-----green/yellow
B15 Red/Green----------------------red/green
B16 Green/Red----------------------green/red

Connector C / 13P
C1 empty------------------------*empty*
C2 empty-------------------------*pink*
C3 empty-------------------------empty
C4 Yellow-------------------------yellow
C5 empty ------------------------*red/blue*
C6 empty -------------------------*black*
C7 Black Black---------------------*yellow/green*
C8 Yellow/green-------------------*empty*
C9 White/Blue---------------------white/blue
C10 empty------------------------empty
C11 Yellow/Red--------------------yellow/red
C12 Green/Orange-----------------green/orange
C13 Blue--------------------------blue

EFRue57

hey i just realized I messed up when entering 2 of my color - pins. where I have C8 and C7 needs to be on C7 and C6. I corrected it on my first post. As far as the color of the wires are concerned, I wouldn't worry about the colors being off. Sometimes they differ from year to year.

del_soldier93

so it should go?
C6 Black Black-------------
C7 Yellow/green------------
C8 empty -----------------
C9 White/Blue--------------
C10 empty-----------------

EFRue57

correct

del_soldier93

thanks man

D16SiHatch

i never tried matching it to actual positions on the connector. following colors just seemed easier. i put this together when i did my cluster swap. from what i discovered when searching it seemed that the ls,gsr,and type r cluster plugs all had the same color wires.

88Hatchy

If you happen to get your plugs from another car (say an EK or a Prelude, like I did) then you have to go by wire position.

D16SiHatch

that i dont doubt lol. i do believe that op however did get his from a teg though

del_soldier93

Ok, I got the cluster installed and everything works! It took me about 7 hours cause none of the wires matched wut the pinouts said, im sure they work for some cars, but they didnt work for mine... lol, I had to trace all the wires onto the little circuit board/paper thing on the back of the cluster to each bulb/gauge.... everything worked the first time except I couldnt get a signal at the speedo. I cut and soldered the speedo wires like 3 time just to make sure I had a good connection and took about 2 hours just looking over the wires and double/tripple checking that i had everything right. Right befor i was about to give up I found out it was my electronic vss... it was bad! Does anyone know wut would cause a tach to go ballistic? It works fine once the car is warmed up, but when i first start it, it reads all over the place... but like i said once its been driven for about 5-10 mins it reads perfect... im stumped...