racing_reject_001

i have heard that the state of california has banded all b16 crx's with swaps in cali due to smog and stuff is this true ??? if so how are you b16ers in the crxs passing ?

HondaHeddie

yeah
register it in Nevada


but seriously,

"you have heard", dont mean it is. dbl check that

I have read a few post here, peeps get past it by not messing with the crx exhaust under the car. and of course, stay all motor, nothing will get you attention at the smog test quicker than a turbo spinning up

I have seen ones that even pass with no cat, just an empty can so the mirror they look at shows a normal exhaust.

Wes V

I don't know from whom you heard that "the state of california has banded all b16 crx's", but the source is wrong!!

I personally have a b18c in my 89 hatchback and have had the installation through the BAR process. Every other year I have to go to a normal smog check station and just point to the sticker put on the car by the Referee, and it's checked as a 95 integra.

Wes

racing_reject_001

well i have dc headers and a catless exhaust with a fart can ( i didnt add this ) and i have to have my head gasket fixed too then my engine will be running good

HondaHeddie

I know you didnt put it on the rex, but.....

smog testers hate fart cans, like most of us

fart cans are for peeps that know english as a 2nd language

dem0nk1d

Wes is right... The law is this.

Your can swap any motor, as long as it's same manufacture, being honda/acura and the same year or older than your car... This means if you have a 1995 Civic hatchback with a Gen 1 b16, would be illegal. But you can hav ea 88 Crx with a gen 1 b16 out of a 89+ and above...

Also I would say Wes has a great writeup on his motor being BAR'd if i remember correctly.

http://www.performanceforum.co....html

dem0nk1d

also about smog laws.

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pag....html

NastyHabitzCRX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But you can hav ea 88 Crx with a gen 1 b16 out of a 89+ and above...
</TD></TR></TABLE>not true for a b16, you cannot use a JDM ecu to pass emissions since it doesnt have some things the US ones do.
BAR'ing a OBD0 B16 you would need to convert to OBD1 and make it run like a Del Sol

yz125rider21

nice info for bar from wes

Zaakro

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NastyHabitzCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not true for a b16, you cannot use a JDM ecu to pass emissions since it doesnt have some things the US ones do.
BAR'ing a OBD0 B16 you would need to convert to OBD1 and make it run like a Del Sol </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah we know that. hes just saying you can use a 1st gen b16.

I dont know about this whole JDM motors cant pass smog. I did my 1st Gen obd0 b16a with a PWO and I passed with flying colors.

racing_reject_001

crap i have a pr3 jdm b16 gen 1 so id have to convert to odb1? wat does that involve changing ? i was planning on doing that anyways so i can get hondata later on

HonDelso

California with a B16a

need
P30 ecu
US b16 intake manifold, or Cali legal aftermarket manifold
94-95 Del Sol Vtec emissions stuff.(cat and such)

yz125rider21

Well I have a p61 ecu and wonder if that work on a 94-95 b18c or does it have to be 92-93???

vdawg559

fudge the smog. just illegal smog.. hehehehhehe. an by the way have u guyz heard about 5 cars bein smash in la. for street racing&gt;??????? can the cops do that now. wtf lmao

yz125rider21

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vdawg559 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">an by the way have u guyz heard about 5 cars bein smash in la. for street racing&gt;??????? can the cops do that now. wtf lmao</TD></TR></TABLE>well they shouldnt be street racing!!!let alone all there **** in the cars was stolen, so thats what they get and if you want to keep street racing it will be only matter of time before we see your car on T.V....

racing_reject_001

well theres more i have to add to the list i buy b4 i go out to LA thank how hard is it to find that stuff?

Wes V

The one item that would have me conserned in regards to locating for a reasonable price would be the correct ECU. I believe it's the P30 that was used in the Del Sol (I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong).

Things like the intake manifold and exhaust can handled by buying aftermarket items that have a CARB certification for a Del Sol. <U>Keep in mind; it has to be smog legal to the engine configuration, not the body!!!</U> As an example, I've got a Skunk 2 intake and also an after market header. Both are smog legal to the 95 GSR motor I have in my car.

Plan on using the stock air filter box and use an LS integra air intake "arm". That's what I did. You will have a hard time finding an aftermarket air intake that is both legal to the engine and also that fits in the engine compartment.

Wes

dem0nk1d

now what if the ecu has been chipped with stock settings for that motor? or does the ref want to see that stock ecu code with that motor?

michael O

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wes V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Plan on using the stock air filter box and use an LS integra air intake "arm". That's what I did. You will have a hard time finding an aftermarket air intake that is both legal to the engine and also that fits in the engine compartment.

Wes</TD></TR></TABLE>

The aem cai for 99-00si will fit (barely) and is also carb certified.

Sometimes they will try to not pass you on something stupid though. I had a ecu conversion harness for running the p30 and they wouldn't pass me on visual the first time I went to the smog ref (he was new though). The other ref's I went to said it was fine.

The smog refs I went to needed to see the p30 ecu. However, that was only after I went to honda and printed out a page stating the p30 was the correct ecu for a 94-95 dohc vtec del sol. In the computer system they use (alldata) it incorrectly states a p28 ecu which completely baffled me the second time I went to the smog ref.

So to answer your question yea you need a p30 ecu. But technically you could chip the p30 to your hearts desire and still pass as long as you pass the sniffer at that point.

Rolling94

I had a 93 coupe with a B16a and it would not pass legally. Be weary if someone tells you they can take your car to some place it will pass for sure.

My friend told me that they take cars and register them as "gross polluters" or something to that effect. At that point it becomes the biggest hassle to get it passed smog.

michael O

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rolling94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a 93 coupe with a B16a and it would not pass legally. Be weary if someone tells you they can take your car to some place it will pass for sure.

My friend told me that they take cars and register them as "gross polluters" or something to that effect. At that point it becomes the biggest hassle to get it passed smog.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're talking about illegally smogging your car. We're talking about getting a california BAR (bureau of automotive repair) smog certification sticker so you can legally smog a swap at ANY smog station.

You only get registered as a gross polluter if your car's numbers from the sniffer are a high percentage over stock I believe. Which make sense because a normal shop would try to smog your car as a crx and not a 94-95 del sol dohc vtec like the smog ref does.

racing_reject_001

ight well im actually thinking bout selling my crx for something else so if your interested let me know ill send the link