TearSDMF89dx

ok so i found a complete b18a1 for 150 bucks ....my goals are 200 whp n/a daily driver .....is this realistic?... im not so hung up on high rev's and dont want to go ls/v just a reliable torquey setup that wont break the bank yet can still be fun for autocross eventually.....what kind of setups do you guys run close to this that work and how much money?

alex14

Not really. Budget is relative though, what are you looking to spend?

TearSDMF89dx

budget depends on results ....in a perfect world i'd say 1000 but its not a perfect world thats why im here trying to see some of the proven setups and base my budget and parts list off of

alex14

A basic rebuild (if you do it yourself) rings, bearings, water pump, oil pump, timing belt, tensioner, valve guides/seats, runs about $400 give or take. If you already have a intake header and exhaust then thats a plus. If not thats ~$250. From there i'd put cams and a tune and call it a day.

OneBadTurboCRV

You will be no where near 200whp with a budget of $1k, let alone with a B18A/B... I don't think you understand what it takes to get a N/A 1.8 to that power let alone a non-VTEC one. The quest is in fact unrealistic - especially on that budget. You would be better off doing a stock rebuild and saving up for boost or nitrous. If you want/need more details just let me know.

TearSDMF89dx

ok, i guess boost is how its gonna have to be ...since this is the case for reliableish power ...what should i do to prep the motor to handle it ....i've built n/a motors and worked on boosted ones just never built one for boost i know lower compression is a must for upping the psi but what else do i need to know? should i install a blockguard? do i need better rods? i know the rs ratio is quite tall on these motors and im obviously not gonna be able to wind it up real high so what kind of turbo should i look towards?

OneBadTurboCRV

Well you asked a few questions soo...

1.) Build it completely stock other than gapping the rings a bit more. (Formulas can be given later down the road/search.)

2.) Factory LS compression is very favorable for boost. Although you can in fact boost an engine with 13:1 compression just the same. Compression will help the vehicle out of boost - the only reason to lower it would be due to crappy tuners/extreme horsepower/maxing out pump gas potential/ect... Completely unneeded for your goals.

3.) The rod stroke ratio is not bad like you think it is actually. There are two reasons why LS's can't rev to the moon: Rocker arm design and Connecting Rod Bolts.

4.) Upgrade the stock rod bolts to ARP's. Have a machine shop install them and then resize the big ends.

5.) Block Gaurds are a complete waste of money. If you want to waste $100 then pay to have it installed right you may as well light that money on fire in a trash can. Good enough analogy?

6.) If you are revving to the moon to spool a turbo you are either maxing insane horsepower or have no clue what or how to pick a turbo. Since your goals are relatively low something along the lines of a T3 57 Trim would be fine. If you are serious and want an exact turbo I could help you there as well.

7.) PAY ATTENTION HERE!!! PSI does NOT NOT NOT mean a DAMN thing!!! It's all about CFM. You could have a small turbo running 30psi all day every day for years and swap out to a very larger turbo at 8psi and blow your engine with the larger one the first time you hit full boost.

You have a LOT to learn in general. Forced Induction is not something you should take lightly. If you want something reliable it's not going to be super cheap. Stay away from eBay is an obvious idea. You can safely/reliabley run 300-350whp on a completely stock LS aside from rod bolts and maybe head studs. With a properly sized turbo you can have full boost around 4k RPM (maybe a touch sooner) and no lag anywhere.

ef yu

very realistic. I got a bseries swap for under 1k. everything was bought from Craigslist and hondatech, so used parts. Heres what i got for the price i paid.
B18a1 long block w/axles/ef-b mounts/trans (from craigslist) - $120
B16 gears (from ht) - $50
B16a longblock with distributor/ and manifolds (from ht) - $300
bswap Shift linkage (from DNR)- $80
clutch kit (ebay) - $130
misc accessory pieces to complete (roughly $200)

Setup right now that i have in the car is a B16a with LS trans that i transferred B16 gears into it.


All in all, you can find deals. wait for the deal, it'll show up.

OneBadTurboCRV

^ You built a 200whp B18A1 for under $1k? I demand dyno sheets and reciepts.

Also, you must remember - the "Midwest" isn't the rice land that California is. Parts aren't plentiful. Almost every time I buy something for my foreign cars it winds up coming from California.

TearSDMF89dx

yeah the midwest definitely sucks thats why i about sh*t when the dude told me 150 for the whole motor ...around here motor alone is usually 800 and up for an old beat one

ef yu

ah lol. forgot about op wanting to make 200 whp. i guess i got lost in my own world about getting a bswap under 1k lol. i dont know how midwest are but if its true about the price for just the engine alone then you should have already knew that you cant possibly get a swap + 200whp for 1k.

Your best bet to get close to that (simple b18a1 swap) is to just buy a wrecked integra at a cheap price.

BLU CIVIC

only thing i did when i turbo'd my LS was get a vtec oil pump and arp head studs. ran w/o any problems for almost a year until someone totaled my car

Fittest224

im in the same position but im getting the long block for free yee! it was rearended and i got it lol my first build was easy since i got the complete gsr and just needed small parts like axels shift linkage and ecu find that stuff easy,but for a b18b i have a hole list to go about i mean yea we can search the web but i dont wana end up spending more then when i did my eg gsr/b16 tranny,if you do start the build keep us updated

TearSDMF89dx

i definitely plan on doing the build but it will be a lengthy project as i have about 90 other things going on with the car right now ....im pretty much in the pre shopping stage of starting a build on my daily when its no longer my daily...i've got a roll cage,rockers,quarters, full interior floor panel patches ,custom speaker enclosures,and various engine parts just building a pile in my garage ....along with 60 plus hour work weeks and an old motorcycle that keeps failing 30 year old electrical components ....i need time can anyone spare some

claes3

i got a 92 integra gs and what to know will it be better swapping a b20 in it or rebuild the b18a1? im talking about not only perf but cost

swordofdoom

I found a B18A1 for $200
B16A2 complete with locked up pistons for $300 + B cable tranny!
Combine the two and Bam Ls V.
I priced some parts of Ebay that will run around 1K with pistons, conversion kit and all the works. I say about 2K well spent for all parts needed.

peteyparado

i no you said no ls-v but y not? you'll get the most HP with out boost/NOS an still have money left over?