turbotime

Ok I am getting to swap this bseries (b17a1) into my civic over the thanksgiving holidays...

I have a week off from school and im trying to do all this and be able to drive back to school (MD-NY) by the end of the week, swapped.

Ok first I am buying a new tranny to have put on the engine before the break, and ill get the engine all cleaned and prepped then as well.

OK then im going to have to pull the stock engine, drop in the b17. I can tighten it all down and get it connected, but i want to get it towed to the shop to do a final check before starting it (my first swap!).

SO can this be done in a week? How much do you think it would cost for the tranny+labor to install it (engine is already off car) and labor to check it?

Also, the engine compression is lowered for boost, i think its 8.5:1, will this blow *** n/a? i mean will it at least be faster then my d16z6? I am going to turbo it but the swapping part is eating my cash right now...

Timmay

if its not done in a week then there is something wrong

i do my swaps in about 4 hours, thats taking motor out and putting the new one in, minus sometimes there are minor setbacks which then may take a bit longer

98k20ex

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ohh that's a toughy, high compression in N/A hondas is where the power is

turbotime

damn, ok well the engine has been sitting for a while and thats by biggest concern.

According to my research I can use my p28 ecu and wiring harness for the b17, all i need is 94+ axles and motor mounts, and header.

What about power? Will it suck N/A? Worse then the d17z6? I was going to put an LS tranny on the b17 but if im gonna run N/A maybe I should get a GSR tranny(but will that be bad for turbo?)

Gah! Sorry, so many questions

oh and i think stock on the b17 is 9.5:1 cr with 160bhp

SOHC4life 96

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Dont be a smart ***. There is no need for it. Yes the engine will suck, power wise, with the low compression pistions w/o any boost. And as stated above, I see no reason why it shouldnt be able to be done in a week. Although the time at the shop will add some time you should be just fine. Good luck and congrats on your first swap.

Timmay

id use a b16a tranny, for turbo or all motor, LS trannys blow, gsr's are ok, i prefer b16's myself

if its not faster than your d16z6 then there is another problem

turbotime

hey i wasnt trying to be a smartass...?

anyway, b16a tranny? ok and yeah i kno it will suck compared to what it could be but as long as its = or better then the d16 it will suffice. Turbo will own tho

Will I need a VAFC or anything for N/A?

SOHC4life 96

Not you 98b16ex was, sorry.

98k20ex

i didn't mean to be a smartass. i'm sorry u interpreted it that way

turbotime

how bad is it for an engine to sit, it has been sitting outside on a crate for about a year with a tarp and hood over it...

thinks its alright? Visual inspection it looked fine....

turbotime

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turbotime

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revolt_allmotor

Yeah the power will be a little soft N/A with low compression, but its cool that will just motivate you to work some overtime to get that turbo sooner

My B16 runs on a chipped P28 in my EG, I think your B17 would too. You have to run the VTEC wires if your car didn't come with a VTEC motor. Its not hard I did it and I had never done any swaps/wiring before.

Definately get a B16 tranny. If you can afford it get an LSD put in before you put the tranny back on, cuz it will be a lot cheaper to have it installed with the tranny already off. And you will wish you had LSD when you get your turbo.

You should be able to put the tranny on the motor yourself. Its not hard. Get a helms manual for your car.

turbotime

awesome thanks for the info. DO you think the engine will be ok even though its been sitting for so long?

Is a Kaaz LSD good? I am looking at a b16a tranny with a Kaaz LSD right no for a crazy price. It has 20,000km. He says:

Kaaz Diff can occasionally make noise when turning at - very slow speeds or under low torque if you will (i.e. parking lot).

is this normal?

I_LuvmyHonda

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B16 tranny??? aaahhhh...this might just be me..but i hate them...4k at 60 mph ("crusin") sucks a fat one and wouldnt the shorter gears suck *** for turbo applications...ive heard that longer gears (LS) are better for boost...ive never boosted w/ls tranny so i cant honestly offer an opinion...but thats only what ive heard

blaster834

^ honestly GSR trannys are the best for a turbo. B16 for N/A and LS for nothing, except gas mileage

turbotime

so your saying dont get the b16a w/lsd? get a 94+ gsr w/lsd tranny? I need something that will be driveable n/a. and then still be good to spool up a turbo when i go f/i

turbotime

^ need to kno asap!

SpoolinEK9

i had problems with the wiring and timing when i did my obd1 ls into my 99 civic still isnt starting but gettin the motor in the car took me about an hour or so this was doing it in my garage by myself. just make sure you have everything you need before you start that what dragged my project out.

fantabulous

get some PB blaster. not everything will come out easy. air tools are good in tough situations sometimes. goodluck with your swap.

turbotime

ok my car is vtec so will i need to chip the ecu to run the engine or can i simply plug it right up to the stock p28?

I am buyin a b16a LSD tranny for it, from a guy here on H-T. WIll this spool the turbo well? I plan on running a shitton of boost 15-20psi most likely im concerned it wont be able to spool all the way up. The tranny im buying has USDM type R gears and a 4.40fd

fantabulous

will the tanny spool your turbo better? dont know what u mean by that, but a turbo's powerband is much higher in your engines rpm. 4.4 is kinda short gearing. some might prefer the longer gear ranges where as a turbo will make up for it top end. its really personal preference. you gotta drive your car and get a feel for it.