Unseen Racer

ok so im replacing my tranny because it is slipping and it doesnt always go into reverse.

i have removed all bolts that are connected to the motor aswell as the rear mount and tranny mount.

the tranny does not seem to want to fall.
do i have to remove the torque converter to remove the auto tranny?

Unseen Racer

bump.

and i did search by the way.
no one answered except for about 2 people saying
that the torque converter needs to be removed.
HENCE me verifying if it needs to be removed

hondamark35

where's your service manual..? trust me it's worth the $12.

you need to remove the 8 bolts holding the torque converter to the flex plate. if you havn't yet this involves removing the lower exhaust from the manifold, and the dust cover from the trans, then you can access the bolts.

double check that all your wires and shift linkage are loose too.

*and be sure that the torque converter stays with the transmission, don't pull it off of the input/pump shaft.

Unseen Racer

my neighbor took my hayness manual.
and im kinda lost.
can you show me pics of the general area of where the bolts are at?

hondamark35

your neighbor needs to get his own..haha.

i don't have a pic at the moment i can show you, but if you climb under the car, with your feet out the front, looking up at the engine... you'll see the oil pan to the left, and the transmission to the right. at the point where the two meet, there is a black steel dust cover and two aluminum braces (i know these are on the 5sd, i assume they're on the auto) on the transmission (if you havn't already removed them). once that is removed with 3 or four bolts you'll see the flex plate inside the transmission bell housing. it'll be kind of a gold color (or covered in oil...) with a lot of holes in it. around the primiter of this plate you'll see 10mm-headed bolts. these are the flex plate to torque converter bolts. you'll have to loosen and remove what you can see, then turn the motor over by hand to get to the rest.

Former User

Unseen Racer

oh ok. well let me go try this out

hondamark35

thanks RonJ@HT

Unseen, the image under item 19 in RonJ@HT's post is the specific area i was describing. what i refered to as the "flex plate" is called out as a drive plate in the image.

Pothole987

You have to remove the inspection cover to get at the torque converter bolts. is it moving at all? or still jammed in place?

Unseen Racer

THank you RonJ@HT and HondaMark35.
i managed to remove the torque converter bolts and
the tranny just slipped out like butter!

OMFG! i never thought removing an auto tranny is soo much work!
i thought it was going to be as easy as removing a standard tranny

but DANG!!!!
i drained the oil from the tranny and when i dropped it, a
SH^% ton of oil came out! ugh! my drive way looks like crap now.

hondamark35

get that kitty litter down!!!

oldscoma442

did you take the t. converter bolts out???

Unseen Racer

lol. i didnt have any. so i just threw
rags on it. lol

Unseen Racer

SON OF A B*TCH!!!

so i drop the car today for the first time after removing the old tranny and putting the other one on, and F*&$!!!!!
its giving me the same problems!

problems are:
first gear slips
4th gear does not go in
and when i shift from 2 to d4, it gives off a violent jerk.

i have 2 CEL

P0700-Automatic Transmission Control System
and
P0758-Problem in Shift Solenoid Valve B Circuit

now, i ask as a fellow Honda Driver, can any1 PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, help me with this?
i seriously have had about all that i can take with this car

hondamark35

having the same problem on a different transmission... i would be pretty suspicious of what has been reused/left on the car. i'm thinking faulty wiring or maybe bad PCM..

Unseen Racer

yup. same problems.
i dont think its the tranny cuz it would be one hell of a
coincidence if i got another tranny that has the same problems
as my old one.

whats the PCM and where is it located?
wiring checked out

Former User

Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is just a subsection of the ECU that controls operation of the transmission. Check the wires running between the transmission and ECU.

Unseen Racer

all wires checked out.
all sensors are plugged in.

do you think if i plug in another ECU, it will work?

Former User

This is worth a try at this point.

Unseen Racer

will an ECU from a 99 civic work?
i know that the 96 is OBDIIa and 99 is OBDIIb.

also do you think it can be the torque converter?

Former User

Not sure. I don't think the torque converter will throw a code. Deal with the codes first.

Unseen Racer

ok well how do i deal with them?
i have researched and i am stumped.

ill try my 99 civic ECU later on. once my car dries

Unseen Racer

Ok. well an OBDII B ECU will not work in an OBDII A car.
since the small plug is completely removed on the OBDII B.

so does any1 know how i can deal with the codes?
can it be the TCM?(transmission control module)

Unseen Racer

bring hopes up bump

Unseen Racer

ttt