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Old 07-02-2004, 09:19 PM
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I was hopefully recieving an AEM cam gear for a Z6 but I think I accidentally got one for a Y8...will this bolt up to the Z6? I know the timing marks are probably off...but does anyone know what problems I will run into...
Old 07-02-2004, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: Y8 AEM Cam Gear on Z6... (BauleyCivic)

It should bolt up okay. When I was using a Skunk2 cam gear, it was listed as applicable for all 1992-2000 Civics, and it worked without a problem on my Y8.
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Default Re: Y8 AEM Cam Gear on Z6... (Daniel)

your motor will explode if you put in that cam gear
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Default Re: Y8 AEM Cam Gear on Z6... (BauleyCivic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was hopefully recieving an AEM cam gear for a Z6 but I think I accidentally got one for a Y8...will this bolt up to the Z6? I know the timing marks are probably off...but does anyone know what problems I will run into...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Should bolt up fine, but you are correct about the timing being off.

Here's a visual comparison between the 2 thanks to builthatch:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by builthatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Y8 gear- note keyway is offset from vertical axis


AEM Z6 gear- note vertical axis bisects keyway CORRECT for Z6

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there MAY be a slight difference in timing....


all the degree difference scenarios between z6 and y8 heads, cams, and cam gears... makes me go screwy in my head.
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so the cam gears will work just timing has to be adjusted. ok. are the cams interchangable? i have a y8 head with no cam and just found a z6 cam. will these work together and if so, if i use a z6 cam gear, will the timing be right or not? i dont know these things
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Yes, you can use a Z6 cam in a Y8 head. The timing will be off, though.
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the timing will still be off even with a z6 cam gear on the cam?
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hey bauley if you want your money back then just let me know, this has been one big *** mess.....let me know what you want to do
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Default Re: Y8 AEM Cam Gear on Z6... (JV)

Y8 HAS 38 TEETH
Z6 HAS 40 TEETH

You're going to have big trouble with that. As first your engine will start but after a couple of revolutions your valves are going to hit the pistons. Unless you replace the crank gear with a matching one.
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i dont think there is a tooth count difference as MANY companies sell gears for all 92-00 d-series
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by capbyrd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the timing will still be off even with a z6 cam gear on the cam?
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Oops, sorry. I just realized you'll be using a stock cam because your head has no cam in it right now. I'm not sure if the timing would still be off or not if you coupled it with a Z6 cam gear. I'm assuming it would be okay, but don't quote me on that.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM-pinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Y8 HAS 38 TEETH
Z6 HAS 40 TEETH

You're going to have big trouble with that. As first your engine will start but after a couple of revolutions your valves are going to hit the pistons. Unless you replace the crank gear with a matching one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your wrong. The gears have the same number of teeth. However the key has a different off set.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your wrong. The gears have the same number of teeth. However the key has a different off set.

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no your wrong. There is are both cam gears posted, so instead of going by what you think, stop for 30 seconds and count up to 40. The top one had 38 gears, the bottom has 40.
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yep, count them

38

40

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your wrong. The gears have the same number of teeth. However the key has a different off set.

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Negative. count them.
Correct me if I am wrong, the pitch diameter of the y8 and z6 are just about the same the size, so the size of the teeth will be slightly different. The timing belt would also be different for the two types of engine. The difference would be less than a millimeter so it is not recognizable by the eye. use a vernier caliper to verify.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM-pinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Negative. count them.
Correct me if I am wrong, the pitch diameter of the y8 and z6 are just about the same the size, so the size of the teeth will be slightly different. The timing belt would also be different for the two types of engine. The difference would be less than a millimeter so it is not recognizable by the eye. use a vernier caliper to verify. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude your smoking crack. I have a stock y8 and a stock z6 cam gear in my hand. They have the same teeth!! I know they came off those engines because i removed them. They both have 38 teeth. I donno where your coming up with the z6 has 40, but your totally wrong. Both have *38*.

Look at the pictures posted above. They both have 38 too.

Ill take a picture in a few...

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Default Re: Y8 AEM Cam Gear on Z6... (liam821)

dude not to bust your ***** or anything... But did you graduate grade school? I count 38 on the top one and 40 on the bottom one.
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I think you should send it back for 2 reasons. 1: It is the wrong gear and 2: it only has 3 screws. I would never trust my timing to 3 screws. The Unorthodox one looks nice, I think it has 6.
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Yeah, there have been some reports of slippage with the AEM cam gear. My Skunk2 cam gear had six screws and worked great. Actually, my only beef with the Skunk2 cam gear was that they (Skunk2 themselves) sent it to me with a missing screw. Luckily I had an easy replacement, but it was still a little annoying.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I Am Jack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude not to bust your ***** or anything... But did you graduate grade school? I count 38 on the top one and 40 on the bottom one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Then that isnt a z6 cam gear. Maybe its a f22 or something. I dont know.

Im sorry about the poor quality of these pictures, i dont have my digi camera here with me. This is done with a webcam.

The *only* difference between the gears is where the tooth is. Its a few degrees off.

This is a stock d16z6 cam gear. 38 teeth. It came off my 93 civic si d16z6 stock motor.



This is a stock d16y8 cam gear. 38 teeth. Came off a 96 civic EX.



Them next to each other y8 on the left z6 on the right.



Line up perfect



SAME SIZE



&lt;-- not crazy

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I wasn't questioning what you have personally I was referring to the post above with the pic... the top one has 38 and the bottom one has 40...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I Am Jack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wasn't questioning what you have personally I was referring to the post above with the pic... the top one has 38 and the bottom one has 40... </TD></TR></TABLE>

hehe its cool. I bet he was sent that by mistake. Prolly a f22 or something. I donno but its not a sohc cam gear.

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Default Re: Y8 AEM Cam Gear on Z6... (liam821)

Alright...so what does everyone think i should do...?

More food for thought...the B7/Z6 combo throws timing off 1/2 tooth...could I use this to my advantage?
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OMG guys there exact same

If u use a Z6 one on a Y8 u have to advance it 2 deg i think

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