Vagitarian

Basically Im scheduled for an alignment tomorrow, but my strut bar has not shown up yet. Its just an upper front strut bar, but Im thinking I may have to remove the upper spring nuts, and raise the car with the nuts off to lower the studs to fit the bar over the threads in the chassis

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170760096065...84.m1439.l2649

Will my alignment be affected??

Debating whether or not I should call and cancel the alignment

Thanks guys

kyden

a strut bar has zero to do with an alignment.

EsotericImage

iTrader: (8)

^^ That and if you pay 138 for that POS strut bar, your crazy

speedjunkie_g35

Way over priced for a no name bar. If you want function just get you a factory integra strut bar...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/94-01-integr...1fab1a&vxp=mtr

Red-Rocket

save your money, a strut bar does absolutely nothing but add bling to your bay and more crap to remove if you need to replace something

NotAJDMFanBoy

It does next to nothing in the first place, and as said, it doesn't affect alignment. Alignment is purely based on angles of the wheels. As long as you're not tweaking the car to install it or anything, nothing will be moved.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

In his thread in the Suspension forum he thought it looked cool. That was his MAIN criteria in choosing a strut bar. Functionality was last. He was already told that a 3 point or 4 point bat was best for handling.

mikekh10a

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i think that's an exaggeration, at least to my understanding.
i thought it slightly tightens the chassis. (even though a rear sway bar would do a better job of doing this)

jchope

wont affect anything all they do is stiffen up the front of the car

kyden

a sway bar and a strut bar have two totally different purposes.

jbpnoman

That exact strut bar would not affect your alignment, and would actually serve the purpose of stiffening your chassis. No joints = good to go. On the down side, it only has one mounting point, so it wouldn't help against chassis flex, just body roll. For less than half the price, this one would be a lot better for you. It'll keep chassis flex, and body roll both in check.

You people saying strut tower reinforcements don't do anything need to go ahead and learn about suspension dynamics before talking about them.

Also, why is the OP talking about a part for an EF in the EJ section? Color me confused.

Vagitarian

I asked if it would affect my alignment WHEN I INSTALL IT. AKA I have to remove the upper shock bolts, lift the car slightly to lower the studs, and then place the bar over the studs, then lower the car so the studs come back up through

Would THAT affect my alignment

The bar has 2 points on each side, the tube on its side is just decieving, there is a U shaped piece to go to the other side.

I did not choose the bar just for looks grumble, you moron, I said I didnt like the look of the 3 points and crazy nuespeed bar, this one bent to the front which frees up alot of room over the intake which is what I wanted

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

As opposed to affecting your alignment with it off the car? The answer is "No" in any case. How you would think it affects your alignment I have no idea. How would that affect your caster, camber or toe? It doesn't. Show me any DIY strut bar install where anyone ever had to get an alignment afterwards. And you have to lift the car? Why? And two point bars are nearly useless. When offered superior solutions that didn't look good to you, you dismissed them.
And this was the title of the other thread.
Front Upper Strut Bar - What are GOOD options, and look sexy..
and "I didn't like the looks..." screams appearance to me.

I have a Benen and I can get access to anything under the hood. I just installed a catchcan without having to take it off.

Vagitarian

Because the strut bolts are angled, so the holes dont line up with the studs full out of the tower, you have to remove the nuts and lift the car to lower the studs so the holes on the bar will fit over

I thought unbolting the suspension may change the alignment

And how do those words mean I put looks first and function last as you put it. Yes I care how it looks, but function and price, are above that

Kohen

Nope. Tie rods, control arms, camber arms and those type things affect alignment.
Unbolting it won't change your alignment. Now if you lower/raise your suspension (like on lowering springs or whatever) it will change your alignment.

Vagitarian

thanks bud, took 13 replies before someone read the question

Visitor

ahahahahaha^^
if i were you i would just wait till you installed it and then get it aligned. i kno they said it wont affect anything and it shouldnt. just do every thing you need to it then take it in and have it aligned just to be safe.

that doesnt sound right that it doesnt have any affect on the car. common sense tells me it would help in turns and a more durable one could help protect the engine if you were to roll...

Kohen

You're welcome! And yeah that happens on here.. Hahaha

grumblemarc

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Post 2
then 3-5,9 & 11.
And I said the same thing.

EsotericImage

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tcout

So the whole connecting the tops of the front suspension together thing is just a myth and all these track cars just have them for looks and added weight?

Black R

Bullshit, it will affect his alignment.

Not by a lot, but it still will affect it.

If you don't believe me, try it for yourself.

I have, and with the neuspeed fstb, there was a subtle change in the alignment - mainly camber. But as you smart guys know, camber affects toe on these Hondas.

grumblemarc

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Must have missed this post.

jbpnoman

Installing a strut tower bar doesn't affect your alignment. Your suspension doesn't move at all when installing one. I've installed them in MKI and MKII VWs, as well as EF, EG, EK, EM1, EM2, DC, DC2, and DC5 chassis'. If you have to remove the struts from the car to do it, you're doing it wrong. CCT adjustments are not made from the solid mounting points on the top of the strut tower. Even if you DO remove the strut, don't touch the camber or toe bolts, and your alignment will be within .1% of what it used to be.

Kohen

I don't think he was talking about removing the struts. I think he was just talking about jacking the car up and dropping the struts a little cause some bars are a bitch to install without doing so. Unless you have one of them eBay bars with adjustable parts.