bpowa

well i want to know if anyone smogged a b20vtec, anywhere stock; will it pass the sniffer.

=GAME=

i dont think so. its a suv motor.

rodrez.

No, it won't pass. CRV motors came out of light duty vehicles. Also, frankenstein motors are not legal.

jdm123

it will not pass emissions it is considered a light truck engine and that is what the block is.

Luserkid

Before people start to say "yea my friend passed at the smog station, he just needed to pay a little extra" We are talking passing legally.

And no you will not pass.

rodrez.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Before people start to say "yea my friend passed at the smog station, he just needed to pay a little extra" We are talking passing legally.

And no you will not pass. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good point brotha
The motor itself, if pretty much stock, and in decent shape, should pass numbers wise, just not legally according to state guidelines.

bpowa

i am talking just emmissions, like the nox anh hydrocarbon etc..

showtymers619

emmision wise you can pass.. visual nope


and LS vtec can be bard also, i have witness it with my own eyes on my friends 92 hatch

JoeCDN

What happens when it doesnt pass?? I just wanna know for myself! We dont have emmission passes here in Quebec, Canada

stockegsix

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LS vtec can be bard also, i have witness it with my own eyes on my friends 92 hatch </TD></TR></TABLE>


damn, did the REF not know?

rodrez.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ShowTymers619 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">emmision wise you can pass.. visual nope


and LS vtec can be bard also, i have witness it with my own eyes on my friends 92 hatch </TD></TR></TABLE>

Incredible. The REF that your friend visited, violated city, and state emissions regulations.

bpowa

it is amazing to me how other states and country dont have smog. just like they are amazed at us for having t do it..

was ur friends lsvtec built?.. my compression is 9:1 not built it should pass right? (the sniffer)

Luserkid

If the motor is stock then you should pass under CRV standards, i dont know if youll pass as a civic though.

showtymers619

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Incredible. The REF that your friend visited, violated city, and state emissions regulations. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i highly doubt they violated anything.. i mean every1 and there mom has gone to southwestern...


im pretty sure its not illegal since.. i have seen old school moscle cars doing hybrids also.. and im talking about the ones that still have to do smog and all..

its like putting a flat head on a v8 that didnt come with a flat head

mainly aslong as it can be listed as a motor and that it follows the standard emmisions and pass..

they list lsvtec as acura vtec engine

and as for my friends LS vtec passing smog... it was bone stock.. using a gsr ecu stock

rodrez.

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i highly doubt they violated anything.. i mean every1 and there mom has gone to southwestern...
</TD></TR></TABLE>

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-engine must be the same year of chasis, or newer, with all associated smog equipment for that engine designation in full functioning order.
-engine replacement must be available in a US vehicle that meets all California emissions laws. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting. There was never an LS/VTEC motor offered, it's pieced together, in your friends case, an Integra LS block, an Integra GSR ECU, and B16 head. I think that's awesome he got his stamp, but they went outside the guidelines, which is great, but rare, it's not going to happen everywhere.

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mainly aslong as it can be listed as a motor and that it follows the standard emmisions and pass..
</TD></TR></TABLE>

If this was the case, the CRV motor would be legal to swap into a Civic or Integra, which it's not.

showtymers619

the no truck/suv motor in cars still applies, since theres really no way around it
as the ls vtec is still be concidered a car motor, for sure i kno you can pass with a car motor in a truck/suv body.. my friend actually had a LS bottom end with a gsr head... which is maybe why he passed a tad bit easier

Jon V

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting. There was never an LS/VTEC motor offered, it's pieced together, in your friends case, an Integra LS block, an Integra GSR ECU, and B16 head. I think that's awesome he got his stamp, but they went outside the guidelines, which is great, but rare, it's not going to happen everywhere. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It may not be legal to piece together a motor ( LS block, GSR head, ITR trans ), but to the average "Joe" all they will see is the LS block stamp and they assume it is an LS motor...

Spirit Iron knife

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ShowTymers619 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the no truck/suv motor in cars still applies, since theres really no way around it
as the ls vtec is still be concidered a car motor, for sure i kno you can pass with a car motor in a truck/suv body.. my friend actually had a LS bottom end with a gsr head... which is maybe why he passed a tad bit easier</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's cool your friend got away with it, but the Referree he BAR'd with hooked him up, but did something illegal. An LS/V wasn't available from Honda/Acura, so it's not a legal swap, period. HT is supposed to be about schooling poeple correctly, and your information about your friend is great, but it's completely out of the norm. Go to the Referree in Escondido, and they'll turn you away for a swap like that.

rodrez.

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It may not be legal to piece together a motor ( LS block, GSR head, ITR trans ), but to the average "Joe" all they will see is the LS block stamp and they assume it is an LS motor... </TD></TR></TABLE>

We're not talking about an average "Joe," we're talking about the Referree. They're fully trained and know exactly what to look for. Also, they have a reference guide that tells them what to look for as they do the inspection.