2000si

like the topic says, i found an integra with a manufacture date of 10/89 with rear disc. i just want to know if it will bolt up to my 1997 civic ex. i am assuming the integra is a 1990 model. everthing is there including hubs, lca, trailing arms, cables, etc... let me know

thanks

xCIVICx

did you try the "wonderful answer giver "??/

aka THE SEARCH Button?

but i believe they do.... anyone comfirm my answer. from
I know they go in to 92-95 egs..

but if you search you will find that you might need more then that. like a brake booster and stuff. and your answer i am sure

2000si

i tried the search and there was nothing specific about a 1990 teg. the only specific application i found was for an ef. i try not to post stuff that has already been covered and covered and covered over again. i know how irritating it gets. i may have also overlooked it in the search also. i know that a 1994-2001 teg fits an eg and ek, just not 100% sure about the previous gen tegs.

thanks for you input though. it gives me a sense of optimism. maybe??? my rear disc brake search may be over.

i think the boosters on an ex and si are the same and the si came with rear disc. i maybe wrong. i will double check.

thanks

2000si

any more insight??????

kaiba

Yes, any 88-00 civic and 89-01 integra all trailarm innerchangeable. But doesn't mean there all the same spec.

Yes, you can use 90 integra trailarm, but use your stock toe, upper and lower control arm.

Use 99-00 si brake cables and 99-00 rear brake lines. Upgrade your stock booster/master cylinder too. I heard that 96-00 civic all have the same proportioning valve so you may be able to use you stock one.

JasonGhostz

Since you have an EK, I recommend emulating the 99-00 Civic SI setup.

As far as hydraulics goes, the 97 EX Coupe uses the same Brake Master Cylinder and Brake Power Assembly as the 99-00 SI. The "Master Power Tube Assembly", Rear Brake Hoses, and Prop Valve are different (and a few nuts/bolts).

The Prop Valve for the 99-00 Civic SI is Honda PN 46210-S04-962. The BMC is 46100-S04-A14, and the Booster Assy is 46400-S04-N11 (for the 1997 Civic EX Coupe and 99-00 SI). I think the Tube Assy is different because of different spacing in the engine bay, but I'm not sure (I know it's different, I just don't know why).

Since you have an EK, I also recommend going with the 99-00 SI's Parking Brake Cables. Unless you want to risk having short cables or using zip-ties to hold your **** together, you'll need Honda PNs 47510-S04-932 (right) and 47560-S04-932 (left).

While the TA from 88-91 Civic/CRXs and DA Integras will "bolt on" to your EK, you will very likely have alignment issues no matter what you use. The rear rotors for 88-91 Civic/CRXs are .5mm higher (when laid flat), and the spindle diameter is smaller (compared to the 92-00 Civics). No matter what you use, make sure that you can positively identify what you have in case things go wrong. TAs from an older vehicle usually means older parts.

Lastly, if you have ABS and plan on maintaining it, you'll need to use something else. ABS hubs are the largest I've seen of the bunch (from 88-00). You'll need different spindles/TAs (different from the 88-91 Civic/CRX/DA Integras) if you want to run them. I haven't done any research into ABS yet...

My first purchase of TAs for my car were from a 88-91 Civic/CRX. I returned them in exchange for what I believe to be a 92-00 Civic/Del Sol... I will not run smaller spindles on a heavier car, and I want to keep my car as EK/EM as possible.. but that's just me.

Anyway, make sure the hubs are good, that the rust is gone, and that the calipers ain't frozen. Let us know how things go.
JasonGhostz

GimpyAccord

Make it easy on yourself, just unbolt (using a big torx, I forget the exact size now)) the disc hubs from the disc TA's and bolt them to yours. While they WILL fit, I find the bushings on those older TA's are usually pretty shot. The cables from the 91 Teg I stole brakes from fit my EG anyway

2000si

here is what i am gathering from what i have read online and here.

the da trailing arms are too short for my application (ek), so just use the disc spindles from the da on my ek drum trailing arms.
use the rear lower control arm from my ek with ek trailing arms and ek upper control arm
use the da hub assembly with da bearings and da calipers.
use 00si ebrake cables and brake hoses
the brake master cylinder and brake booster remain unchanged.

as far as spindle size i checked and the rear hub assembly on a 00si and 90integra are the same (according to advance auto parts website). so if bearing are the same size the spindles have to be the same size.

someone double check me

thanks

2000si

after some more research, some companies sell a rear disc brake swap to include applications for da, eg, ek, dc all inclusively for the same brake set up.

anyone care to confirm this

JasonGhostz

After doing some research, I found that the 90-93 Integras 4-disc brake, non-ABS used H/A PN 42200-SE0-008 (I've also seen 42200-SE0-004 listed; 92-00 Civics used 42200-SR3-A06). I also found that partsamerica.com shows the same aftermarket PN for the 90-93 Integra and 92-00 Civic. I once had 42200-SE0-008 in my hand, but not while I had my current spindles which should take them, nor my measuring tools (only 2 months left for the Fowler Tool-A-Thon!!! check the sig).

So it seems like the Rear Disc Brake (non-ABS) Hub/Bearing Assys for the 90-01 Integra and 92-00 Civic are interchangeable (or at least listed as such at some sites). I know for a fact that Brembo's OEM rear rotors for the 90-01 Integra (non-Type-R) are the same as for the 92-00 Civics. I am unsure as to the calipers, but if the rotors are the same spec, then it should follow that the caliper's spatial relationship to the spindle center, rotor, and hub are the same.

The question that remains is whether they have the same mounting points and orientation to properly seat into the TA (Torx Bolts and inner shaft). If the Torx Bolts don't line up, then you're screwed. If the inner shaft is too long or too short, or the wrong diameter (down to the threaded end), then you're shafted.

I am going to do my rear drum to disc conversion from the spindle. From what I understand, you can do the same. Check this thread and measure your set to see what you have...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1409056
There are some links to other threads that will help as well.

As far as ordering from an online site or any other shop, there are some things you have to be wary of. The few ways **YOU** will be able to confirm what you have involve a lot of measuring and disassembly. Doing so may void any return/exchange policies. Having the shop "do it for you" is a major PITA, so you better have a connxn or "trust" that they confirmed it (tell them to leave the hub nut unstaked, or to send pics). Lastly, remember that "bolt-on" doesn't necessarily mean "safely usable" where used parts are concerned...

Why is it so important to know what you have? As long as it works who cares, right? Right... Don't expect the Susp Arm Bushings to be in great condition. The rotors are likely going to need to be turned or replaced. The condition of the Calipers and Pads is a crapshoot. Keep in mind how many miles/years are on the hubs. Hardware... Freaking hardware...

Have you bought your parts yet, or are ya still shopping?
JasonGhostz


(edit)
I noticed that drivewire.com showed different prices and PNs for the 90 Integras RS/LS, GS and the 99 Civic SI (K7001-86476, K7001-65200, and K7001-55818, respectively). The Beck-Arnley site shows the same PN 051-6005... I don't know what to make of this...


Modified by JasonGhostz at 10:18 PM 10/31/2005