Chef Andre

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Okay so heres the deal. I have a 93 Civic DX that was converted rhd before I bought it. Everything on the car worked fine but the wiring was a bit shady. To fix this I just pulled the ENTIRE car harness out of a 95 civic EX and replaced my old harness. I pulled everything from the headlights to the taillights and replaced it with the ex wiring.

Now I have a few problems. I'm not getting spark and my fuel pump won't turn on.

Now for the fuel pump we tried running power directly to the fuel pump and it primed right up so that eliminated that. We also tried numerous different main relays and they all click when I turn the key so that wasn't the problem. Then we went to the ECU to make sure it's getting power and it gets signal and power fine. Changed any and all fuses that had to deal with the fuel pump as well and still nothing. I also tried a new battery as well just in case it wasn't getting enough power.

Now when we by passed the main relay and went straight from the pump to the engine we figured out we weren't getting spark. We are getting it from the dizzy but not to the wires themselves. We have the firing order correct and even tried switching them around to get a reaction. The coil is brand new and the cap and rotor are also semi new. There are brand new spark plugs in the motor if it matters.

What am I missing here? All grounds are connected and we added a few additional just to make sure. We even put the old harness back in the car and tried that as well with no results. Can anyone recommend something here? We've tried every possible solution for the pump and the spark with no results.

Thanks in advance and I'll buy a drink for anyone who comes up with a solution.

billyinse

whats the condition of the spark plug wires

Chef Andre

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They are used but in near mint condition.

billyinse

i dont know id say get a new dizzy and wires if it dosent work just take um back idk i hate disapearing electricity did you check the under dash fuses the one under the srs to be exact its a 15 i believe but it gave me a scare once car cut off and like you i didnt get spark to the wires

sorullo

bla, bla, bla, , sorry i got confused,, i hope you get your answer dude, you have a big thread.. good luck!!

ek_si hatch

idk if u did this already but u might wont to check all and i mean all of your ground wires!

Chef Andre

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek_si hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">idk if u did this already but u might wont to check all and i mean all of your ground wires!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I did that. I even added a few extras just in case.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by billyinse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know id say get a new dizzy and wires if it dosent work just take um back idk i hate disapearing electricity did you check the under dash fuses the one under the srs to be exact its a 15 i believe but it gave me a scare once car cut off and like you i didnt get spark to the wires </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm going to try a freinds dizzy tonight. I checked every single fuse on the car and they were all good. Any other suggestions guys?

Chef Andre

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Anyone else????

x4thGenCafe

im gonna ask around Andre. ill either hit you up back here or just call you to see what my poeples say

happycorey

I tihnk someone was saying on another thread that if your main relay goes your fuel pump won't turn on (?)

I'm not 100% sure, but if someone could clarify

Syndacate

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by happycorey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I tihnk someone was saying on another thread that if your main relay goes your fuel pump won't turn on (?)

I'm not 100% sure, but if someone could clarify</TD></TR></TABLE>

True, but he's not getting a spark either.

@ OP:
Did you try seeing if you have voltage at the dizzy plug?

Also, are there any other things that are unpowered? Sounds like something isn't plugged in or isn't grounded properly. If it was grounding out prematurely then you'd blow a fuse - but you said all your fuses are fine so it's not that.

EDIT:
Do like, the lights 'n **** work?

Chef Andre

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The main relay I was using was brand new. I got another one just to try it and the same result. All the fuses are good and I'm getting power to the dizzy. This is driving me nuts!!!!!!!!

I'm not getting spark nor will my fuel pump turn on.

And yes the lights work fine. This is so weird!!!!!!!!

x4thGenCafe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by happycorey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I tihnk someone was saying on another thread that if your main relay goes your fuel pump won't turn on (?)

I'm not 100% sure, but if someone could clarify</TD></TR></TABLE>

youre a fkcing idiot he already tried a new main relay.




dont listen to any advice this kid gives you. he doesnt even own a car and certainly has no clue on hondas. all he does is just take pictures of them with his moms camera

happycorey

Sorry I tried putting in my .02.

Chef Andre

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LOL, at least he tried X.

SinsEvil666

Have u tried cranking the car with the dizzy cap off to see if the rotor spins as u crank it?

Chef Andre

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SinsEvil666 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have u tried cranking the car with the dizzy cap off to see if the rotor spins as u crank it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haven't tried that. I'll do it when I get out of work.

JDMCACKBOY

some1 get this car started

Chef Andre

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Okay well I think we figured it out. When trying to piece together a harness for my car I got a fire wall harness from a JDM eg6. The rest of the car came from a USDM civic ex. Apparantly the two are not compatible. Everything plugs in but the pin outs are different from the floor harness to the main harness.

The funny thing is I asked if they would match up before but no one on the forums had an answer for me at all.

So tomorrow I'm going to call a couple places to see if I can get the proper harnesses and try to turn the key again. Wish me luck.

x4thGenCafe

good luck d00d

jdm_bones

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Check your fuel pump relay, and fuses to the fuel pump dude...the is an open circuit in your wireing.