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Old 03-26-2003, 08:00 PM
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Default Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors?

Well, My Si is becoming too costly. I was thinking of selling it for $15,000 (if lucky) with 16000miles. I got it used for $12,500 with 13500miles . So I might save some $ by getting an older HB and swaping a motor in. Here is the site that brings up my question...

http://www.swapjdm.com/swapjdm/honda7.htm

So this is where my question comes into play. Why is the H22A j-spec motor cheaper than most of the b-series j-spec (on that site), even cheaper than the B16A2 (j-spec), when it puts out alot more power?!?

Is it b/c the b-series are more reliable, or that these packages are j-spec, or could it be just as simple as that maybe the H22A they sell has alot more mileage? Sorry if this has been covered, i did search.

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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (MikeBSI)

because there is more demand for b series swaps. People are scared that h22's weigh to much.


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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (gambit33)

because there is more demand for b series swaps
not really.... you need more parts to install that motor. b series drop in and the H series usually requires mount kit different axles and random other ****.

but that is just my opinion, but now that i think about it, B series are more popular.


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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (MikeBSI)

becuase there isn't that big of a demand on them. Its all about demand you can get a beat up sir for like a grand over in japan but the demand is so big here might as well jump the price up and make a profit. Also how are you going to sell a car for more than you bought it.
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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (tonesdef)

Thanks for info. I forgot about supply and demand.

Could i sell it for more? O i dunno thats why i put (if lucky). But I got it for a great price with low mileage. But yea, it was not in the greatest condition, it had been sitting out for a while and had some dings but nothing big. No engine problems... yet. I might have it dyno'd this weekend.
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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (MikeBSI)

Supply and demand, as well as ease of installation. B series is direct bolt in into most cars. H series needs a mount kit and custom axles no matter what car you put it into (not prelude/accord of course). H series also needs custom wiring due to the resistor pack and a few other things. Don't forget the cutting up inside of the car for the shifter plate also.
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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (GZR4DR)

Supply and demand, as well as ease of installation. B series is direct bolt in into most cars. H series needs a mount kit and custom axles no matter what car you put it into (not prelude/accord of course). H series also needs custom wiring due to the resistor pack and a few other things. Don't forget the cutting up inside of the car for the shifter plate also.
For Which car are you talkin about I have EH2 and had a H22 in it I didn't have cut nothing for shifter plate things.

Edit: And oh yeah B series are high priced cause they are more in demand.

you can buy a 2JZ-GTE motor with twin turbo for the same price as a ITR motor. (Which i could put a 2JZ in my EH2)


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For Which car are you talkin about I have EH2 and had a H22 in it I didn't have cut nothing for shifter plate things.

Edit: And oh yeah B series are high priced cause they are more in demand.

you can buy a 2JZ-GTE motor with twin turbo for the same price as a ITR motor. (Which i could put a 2JZ in my EH2)


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i also have an eh2 - how'd you get the shift linkage to work w/o cutting for the plate?
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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (HybridHackBatch)

because there is more demand for b series swaps

not really.... you need more parts to install that motor. b series drop in and the H series usually requires mount kit different axles and random other ****.

but that is just my opinion, but now that i think about it, B series are more popular.


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I'd say it's because of a few things 1.) They're correct, the popular most hondatechically correct thing would be to put a B series in either eg or ek. Weight being a BIG factor in this. Cost being another. mounts themselves usually run 300+ from place racing or other manufacturers. Plus you need older integra axles linked with older accord half shafts. And not to forget swap costs for the ones too timid to attempt it themselves. Just like most things in this world, the rarity of this swap is about time and money. At first it doesnt look like a lot. in the end it def will be, but worth it imo.
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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (98Hatch00)

I've installed H22A's into 92-95 civics, 96-00 civics, and 94+ integras. The 92-95 required cutting of the passenger side mount bracket, and cutting of the inside for the shifter to sit low enough not to bottom out. The 94+ teg is identical in installation. The 96+ civic requires no cutting in the engine bay, however it still requires cutting of the shifter area.

If you don't cut i have no idea how you ran your cables for the linkage.
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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (GZR4DR)

If you don't cut i have no idea how you ran your cables for the linkage.
Me either. I'm about to embark upon the H22A EH3 swap and am quite curious as to how you accomplished this feat.
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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (GZR4DR)

If you don't cut i have no idea how you ran your cables for the linkage.
Place Racing shifter cable box adapter maybe?
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Place Racing shifter cable box adapter maybe?
....no cutting required..
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Default Re: Why is the J-spec H22A less expensive than most of the b-series motors? (MikeBSI)

Well, My Si is becoming too costly. I was thinking of selling it for $15,000 (if lucky) with 16000miles.
I highly doubt that, 15k maybe last year, more like 13k this year and even less in some areas.
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