Maverik4k

hey,

I dunno, my vtec does kick in and it revs nicely, but i dont make much power till im in vtec and well it seems kinda slow... i have a lot of mods...all new fluids, spark plugs, new belts, alternator.... anything else mabie compression, timming check to mabie check up on? i dont really know if its just me or not because i haven't dynoed yet.

im eventually going to turbo, but i wanna make sure my engine is still in good condition, I also dont wanna spend hella money paying someone to check my head and block.

oh and dont tell me blah blah blah its a 1.6 liter, vtec owns joo.

Please constructive answers now

eL

I also have a b16...

It IS slow. Not even fun to drive unless you're in vtec. But I'm sure it'll be fun once you boost it.

92RED Hatch

if everything feels fine then everything most likely is. I'd go ahead and do the following two things. 1. get a compression check..2. get dynoed just for a baseline ...so you'll have some peace of mind and if you plan on doing more upgrades ie. turbo or whatever you can see how much more you made....good luck

civic_boi98

i dunno why

92RED Hatch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_boi98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dunno why</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know I'm doing the same useless thing but...don't post just to post...if you don't have anything to say that can help then read and move on noob..........


Modified by 92RED Hatch at 3:34 AM 8/15/2004

TommyTom83

my feels the same way i just bought a lightened flywheel hoping this will help it not be so dependant on vtec

blaster834

hah you just did the same thing...

but ya b16 have no torque, no 4 cyl does, but ya honda engines only feel good in the upper rpms, i mean way upper

Maverik4k

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaster834 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hah you just did the same thing...

but ya b16 have no torque, no 4 cyl does, but ya honda engines only feel good in the upper rpms, i mean way upper</TD></TR></TABLE>

word, gotta love it(high revs)

eL

Like he said ^

With only 111tq its going to feel like crap unless you're up in the RPM range.

murmur9

civic_boi98 must be trying to get out of his first 15 so he wont be a trial member.....because that didnt help anyways. read the terms of service noob

ashleyneon

I'm not sure what the stock TB bore is on a B16, but 65mm seems hella big for a 1.6 litre. I have a 52mm on my 2.0 neon (up from 49) and have a 55 awaiting installation. People use a Jeep 60mm on the neon for a cheap upgrade but dyno results show only minimal hp gains after 58mm, and no torque gains.

Try a more restrictive tb and see what happens. You already have the top-end (vtec) so take a little from that and move it to the low-end.

-ashleyneon
-1998 Dodge Neon DOHC Sport Sedan, far from stock.
-1992 Honda Civic DX Hatchback, bone stock.
-1983 Saab 900 Turbo, free if you pick it up.

.Ryan

The B16 was the worse thing I did.

civtegra_hybrid

you never been in a turbo gsr at 10lbs, have you, and at more lbs. for that matter, I took out a gst at 16lbs in my old ls motor and I was boosting 6lbs. lol f*** dsm's

Quad-Damag

becuase my 4 door can smoke the **** out of it
lol

dude lets dyno that thing 131hp and 102tq i bet

Dino_D

Well I guess.

Get a couple dyno runs on it.
Boost it.
Blow it up.
Build it.
Boost it more.
Call it a year and sell it on honda-tech.

dantastic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also have a b16...

It IS slow. Not even fun to drive unless you're in vtec. But I'm sure it'll be fun once you boost it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i feel ya. no fun till after 6000 rpm's. damn torqueless wonder

daver

my gsr motor is starting to feel slow now that i'm used to it. It never really "felt" like a fast car, but it puts the numbers up. Its faster than many cars that feel faster.

Its these torquless 4 cyl engines, they make a lot of hp but they don't have the torque to sit you back in your seat- gradual "roll on" power. I'm thinking i need shorter gearing now, that'll give some more torque feel.

d

Calvinator

I would drive maybe one of your friends car's that have a b16 and see how that feels. The only real way to know is a dyno run.

drewbie

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also have a b16...

It IS slow. Not even fun to drive unless you're in vtec. But I'm sure it'll be fun once you boost it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats why I like my sohc
its fun

most of the time not in vtec but vtec is fun too


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ashleyneon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure what the stock TB bore is on a B16, but 65mm seems hella big for a 1.6 litre. I have a 52mm on my 2.0 neon (up from 49) and have a 55 awaiting installation. People use a Jeep 60mm on the neon for a cheap upgrade but dyno results show only minimal hp gains after 58mm, and no torque gains.

Try a more restrictive tb and see what happens. You already have the top-end (vtec) so take a little from that and move it to the low-end.

-ashleyneon
-1998 Dodge Neon DOHC Sport Sedan, far from stock.
-1992 Honda Civic DX Hatchback, bone stock.
-1983 Saab 900 Turbo, free if you pick it up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

its not how big the engine, its how much air it flows. VTEC motors flow lots of air.

Shaun

I love my b16 , coming from a Dx.....

2fast4u831

check your timing. And what kind of tranny do you have??

tapao

if u want your vtech 2 kick in earlier(lower rpm's) you can get a chip for your ecu that can do it for you. just look for some of those. i just finished a b16 swap w. a friend, and he's about 2 buy a ecu thats already been chipped for him. i know some people who already have it and it doesnt feel slow. they have the vtech come in around 3500-4000... which is fine.

its up 2 you. but a turbo would always be better

-tapao

92CivicSiR2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaster834 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hah you just did the same thing...

but ya b16 have no torque, no 4 cyl does, but ya honda engines only feel good in the upper rpms, i mean way upper</TD></TR></TABLE>

H22a are pretty torque for being a 4 cyl., but yes the b16's arent as torque like you said.

92RED Hatch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tapao &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u want your vtech 2 kick in earlier(lower rpm's) you can get a chip for your ecu that can do it for you. just look for some of those. i just finished a b16 swap w. a friend, and he's about 2 buy a ecu thats already been chipped for him. i know some people who already have it and it doesnt feel slow. they have the vtech come in around 3500-4000... which is fine.

its up 2 you. but a turbo would always be better

-tapao</TD></TR></TABLE>
vtec coming in that low isn't gonna do a thing for you...defenately with a motor with just basics mods. It won't make it feel any better if anything it will make your car feel like it has a cold or something. Plus the cams don't make power down that low. Don't do that to your motor

MUGENKHID

Ya..i agree..you should check ur timing and compression. But one thing you should also check is ur fuel mixture, it sounds like ur running a little too rich or lean. Check ur fuel filter, injector, and pressure regulator and see if they are functioning correctly.