Civichatch972

I have 92 hatch, and for a while now, when I get on it and go through each gear it fells like the tires in the front hop when I slam it into second gear.
Now I just put a b18c1 swap(hella quick), and it does it when I slam it into second and third gear. It fells like is skips.
Also if like I am doing a white smoke or peel out. The whole front end feels like the tires are hopping and shakes the **** out of the tires or something.
I dont know if its maybe my stock shocks in the front(about at old as the car) or maybe a camber problem or alignment problem.
Just need to know what it could be, so I can eliminate the problem
Any advice would help!
Thanks!

Black_eh2

u should of gotten some aftermarket motor mounts

black2kcivic

Dude its feels, not fell or fells.

It is probally a problem with your suspension setup, chances are your shocks are blown, also camber can definately play a part in how your car responds. And it could also be some shitty tires too.

jas0n

camber kit fixs wheel hop i had wheel hop too and i put skunk2 camber kit and it went away

time for some new suspension

shawnhayes

It's called wheelhop. What happens is that as torque is applied, the suspension "rotates" moving the wheel (usually backward toward the rear, although it depends on what's weak in the suspension/drivetrain) until it loses traction, and then it "rotates" back to the proper position - if torque is still present and enough to generate the twist, it will happen again.

This is a huge problem for FWD drag vehicles, and there are a ton of solutions (although if torque becomes high enough, no matter what you do, you can generate this problem, but even if you get the suspension stiff enough, then you start breaking axles).

Multiple fixes that may reduce (or eliminate, depending on the condition/hp of your current engine and/or suspension)
New shocks
New springs
Stiffer shocks and springs
Replacement OEM bushings
Polyurethane bushings
Replacement OEM motor mounts
Replacement polyurethane motor mounts
Replacement all metal motor mounts (bad for ride quality, good for drag)
Z10 engineering radius arms
Competition engineering radius arms
Camber correction kit (if camber is off, the tire may lose traction)
Caster correction (if off)
Wheel alignment

All the above can help, but it depends on the source of your problem.

Shawn

deftones0817

z10 radius arms...i can't stress this enough...best mod to help remove wheel hop that I can think of...

DEF

Civichatch972

Oops I meant feels.

Thanks for the info.
I am thinking that its probably my stock shocks in the front cause there about 10 years old.
Yeah it does it more, with this GSR Swap.( by the way this swap I just got is SWEET!)
Ill get some new shocks and see if that works
What brand or type of shocks should I get that would help out this problem?

Civichatch972

How much do those Z10 radius arms go for?

black2kcivic

It all depends on what kind of driving you plan to do with your car, auto-x, drag, whatever.

I would say though a good all around shock would be the kyb agx, also a camber kit would help alot too, getting that would straighten out your wheels and let there be more contact for your tires to the road. Good luck man, glad you like your swap.

Civichatch972

I just plan on using for daily driver and maybe a little drag strip action once in while.

I do have a camber kit(progress)
Maybe I also just need a alignment again.

black2kcivic

well it may just be your shocks then, when you get new shocks go ahead and take it to a shop and have them check out your alignment then.


[Modified by black2kcivic, 8:10 AM 12/8/2002]

Civichatch972

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Hey you just changed your avatar

deftones0817

i think like 365 is what i paid for mine. I think someone on here sells them as well


DEF

ps...you should get shocks first I didnt see that and alignment still having problems get some arms.

shawnhayes

There are lots of opinions about this, but the resounding opinion is that the best overall (and stiffest) shock without a full coilover is a Koni yellow.

Other (primarily cheaper) shocks may be better suited for street driving (as the Koni's are very very firm), but I don't think it's easy to find someone who sprung (ha ha) for Koni's who's been unhappy with them. (unless they were looking for full race setups like Tein's or better).

Shawn

shawnhayes

I have Z10's as well, and although I like them, I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. As you have noted below, and I have found, that the biggest cause of wheel hop on swapped Hondas is a worn OEM suspension. Going back to just original OEM condition for some of the mild swaps fixes the problem.

However, once a suspension is up to par with good bushings, reasonable springs, and shocks, I must agree with you that Z10's rule after that. But putting Z10's on a worn suspension, while it will fix the wheel hop, will not repair the other handling maladies that most people don't recognize while driving the vehicle.

Shawn