Civichatch972

I used pull pretty good second gear scratches in my 92 hatch, just with intake,headers and exhaust on a dx motor. I now got a jdm D16z (ZC motor)vtec and only pull them in the morning when its not has hot outside or when I just turn my car on for the first time in the day and my clutch is still good. I was thinking maybe it might be a alignment problem, but my alignment is not that much off?
What do yo think it may be?

Finest

Wait. You have a D16z ZC motor, and it's VTEC? Am I missing something here? Don't you mean D16z6?

Anyways, you need more torque...or skinnier tires. :D

PSU

iTrader: (2)

my d15b7 would slam 2nd gear bone stock

KF_S2000

Spinning tires is just wasted energy, energy that could be used to propel the car forward. Why would you want to do that?

Frosty_spl

put more air in your tires.

Or your clutch is bad.

Civichatch972

My old dx engine also pulled second gears like nothing, but after a year or so it was harder to pull them. I guess it just may be my tranny? Even though the tranny doesn't give my any problems? It could be my tires also. I have 205/55/15 on some gsr rims. I think i will just get a new tranny instead. Will 96 and up ex tranny's fit my hatch?

1.8monster

your clutch is bad. im guessing you didn't change it out when you swapped the motor. the reason you are catching the second in the morning is that your clutch is not hot yet. a fresh clutch or cool clutch catches better than a hot one.

spencer00si

your clutch is a gonner, mine is gone too so i know how you feel, im getting an Excedy for my 00 si.
I have heard with the exedy that you get a spin into 2nd and a chirp into 3rd

Civichatch972

I heard of exedy but I didnt know if they were good or not, I guess they are.

oc_civic

what is the fascination with loosing traction ... ***rollseyes***

im missing something definately..i have an act clutch...and on bottle i chirp 3rd pretty bad (keep in mind im trying NOT to) so i guess you could just get some nitrous then youd probably be able to "scratch gears" all the time..


but imho... GHEY!

B18C5-EH2

Nitrous would not help him "scratch" gears - it would only further destroy his clutch.

To stop any further confusion there is a SOHC VTEC ZC motor. I've seen one in person, so please don't argue this point. There were also hydro-equipped DOHC ZC motors offered in some rare EG hatches in Japan to.

Anyways, your clutch is probably not as good as it used to be, or perhaps you have better tires than you used to.

Either way "scratching" gears is a lame way for others to judge your car's performance. I cannot stand to hear people say "Oh **** dogg! He just snatched 3rd y0 y0!" and then go on about how fast the car must be.

I have seen weak-*** 150K mile DX hatches "scratch" second and even third gears with a good clutch in them.

Loosing traction might impress ignorant people, but it doesn't help you in any way. It's also determined more by the strength of your clutch and the shittyness of your tires when you don't push over 140whp or so.

Sorry to come off like an ***, but it's just one of those things that gets on my nerves about the whole "scene."


[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 7:24 PM 9/2/2002]

kmf0211

i agree...

I also once saw a 16 second civic ex chirp 4th and almost 5th gear goin down the track....

its pretty funny how some poeple think just cause someone chirped a gear means their car is fast....

PSU

iTrader: (2)

why the heck would he shift to 5th when drag racing?

B18C5-EH2

I call bullshit on a stock EX shifting into 5th.

I could have shfted into 5th only with my ITR tranny with the 4.929FD in it, so there's no way a tall-*** EX D-series tranny will even get 1/2 through 4th gear.

JV

WTF!? I used to trip the lights in 3rd when i had the D16...


[Modified by JV, 9:09 PM 9/2/2002]

97hb

96 SOHC VTEC

I call bs on chirping 4th. I can usually get a scratch out of 2nd on most days, not that I impressed. Also, on a few occasions I have scratched third as well. 4th, never heard of anyone doing that, even with turbo.

seano

I used to crazy scratch in 2nd, but when I firmed up my Koni yellows I can barely ever get even a peep from my tires.

Mojo-Jojo

Unless that guy also has a shorter FD.

Christ you people judge way too quickly.

B18C5-EH2

If he has an FD (4.929FD - very doubtful) with a D-series tranny he still will not be into 5th in the 1/4 mile because the D-series trannies have taller gearing than the ITR tranny.

I'm not judging anyone. It's highly unlikely that anyone has the 4.929FD for the D-series trannies because it's not nearly as widely known as the B-series stuff.

Quoting the original post, I see he says it's a 16-second car. I seriously doubt that a 16-second SOHC car has an SRR 4.929Fd in it. He might be mistaken for 3rd and 4th gears, but no way in hell would a 16 second SOHC car hit 5th gear in the 1/4 mile - IMPOSSIBLE.

Sorry that I use LOGIC when I present my side of an argument.



[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 11:10 AM 9/3/2002]

mitsuman

iTrader: (1)

i once drove a b16 with gsr tranny with a three puck clutch and was scratchin 4th. it was pretty fun.

kmf0211

Did i ever say the 16 second EX was stock?? No, I didn't...

For some reason he had a b16 tranny that day at the track with an ACT clutch...

call bullshit if you would like...wtf do i care, i was there, and i saw it with my own eyes...

later

96 SOHC VTEC

How can you have a b-series tranny with a d-series engine? I didn't think that was possible.

B18C5-EH2

HAHA...

16 second B16A Civic with a better than 4.400 FD?

Highly unlikely.

I still doubt that the guy got into 5th gear. B16A tranny or not.

I had the ATS 4.929FD with my ITR tranny and shifting at 9200RPM in every gear I *could* have shifted into 5th had I wanted to, but instead I crossed the line at 9200RPM in 4th because an extra shift would only slow me down that late in the 1/4 mile. This was also on those short-*** M/T 14'' slicks, so my FD ratio was more like a 5.200 or so.

That 16-second EX with a B16A would need like a 5.600 FD to get into 5th with that slow of a car - unless he was shifting at 500RPM or so.

I still call BS - sorry.

Again I'm using logic.




[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 12:40 PM 9/3/2002]

kmf0211

look B18C5 - EH2 -I dunno what FD this guy had in his car and I do not know hwy he shifted into 5th gear but whatever like i said before i saw it and if you dont wanna believe it, then dont. It was a slow *** 97 EX with a good clutch... - driver was shitty too... o well

I know you know your **** and i know your using logic so i dont even wanan start to argue with you because hands down you know way more than i do...so just drop it man...