why 40+ offset when -40 would give you wider track?
05-08-2003, 01:18 PM
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why 40+ offset when -40 would give you wider track?
there are so many threads about people worrying if 45 offset will rub the inside? how come people arent asking if 38 offset will rub the fender or something? just curious, what benefits do you get with a 40+ offset?
Im planning on getting kosei k1 racing 16x7.5 rims, and i want a wide track. I want the surface of the rim to be flush with the fender, minor rubbing i dont mind on rare occassions...but i dont know why im the few that ask if something will clear the fender opposed to calipers or the inner linning. my car will be lowred 2 inches too
Im planning on getting kosei k1 racing 16x7.5 rims, and i want a wide track. I want the surface of the rim to be flush with the fender, minor rubbing i dont mind on rare occassions...but i dont know why im the few that ask if something will clear the fender opposed to calipers or the inner linning. my car will be lowred 2 inches too
05-08-2003, 03:49 PM
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if your rims sit flush with the side of the car, they will rub esp if you are lowered. ppl who auto-x often do run spacers to push their rims out further. just remember, if you do run spacers, u should put in longer wheel studs
05-08-2003, 11:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nd8ch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i always thought that if your wheel is flush with the fender, the camber increases when the height lowers?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The camber will always increase when the suspension compresses with un-equal-length A-arms, the wheels have nothing to do with it.
Running lower offset wheels increases the lever length of the suspension, which stores more energy during compression, which can lead to even more exaggerated bump steer that is already pretty bad on lowered Hondas as it is.
Also a lower offset will induce exaggerated toe-in torque steer that is dialed out from the factory with higher negative offset wheels.
The camber will always increase when the suspension compresses with un-equal-length A-arms, the wheels have nothing to do with it.
Running lower offset wheels increases the lever length of the suspension, which stores more energy during compression, which can lead to even more exaggerated bump steer that is already pretty bad on lowered Hondas as it is.
Also a lower offset will induce exaggerated toe-in torque steer that is dialed out from the factory with higher negative offset wheels.
05-09-2003, 05:28 AM
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There is also something about physics and center of gravity, etc. Extending the wheels for a wider track is not the same as a car with wider suspension track. The mounting point of the springs/shocks are still the same. Use a pencil for example of a wide track axle. Now see how the axle would move if the suspension would be on different points of the axle.
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05-12-2003, 07:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nd8ch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so running a low offset is bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, it's not bad.
My comment was that a true wide track suspension is more than just wheel offset.
No, it's not bad.
My comment was that a true wide track suspension is more than just wheel offset.
05-12-2003, 09:58 AM
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Re: (nd8ch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nd8ch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so running a low offset is bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, depends on how low of an offset you go. i am going to run a 15x8 +27mm, if they ever get here.... also, be careful, as the more negative you go with offset, the wheel bearing become the next victims.
well, depends on how low of an offset you go. i am going to run a 15x8 +27mm, if they ever get here.... also, be careful, as the more negative you go with offset, the wheel bearing become the next victims.
05-12-2003, 10:47 AM
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Re: (rodney)
with stock being +36 right? So I am running a +46 (not for track use rims) which rubbs alot after I lowered my car 1.5 inches. So I wouldn't go past a +43 is bad IMO
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