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Old 12-27-2008, 10:21 AM
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To get the axles off of the engine, do you need to separate the lower ball joint and control arm in order to swing the hub assembly and strut tower out enough? On most cars I've had to do this, and I almost always snag the boot when using that fork tool.

When raising or lowering the car to put the engine in from the bottom, can you use standard size jacks or do you need the larger ones?


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yes and your gona need a big jack to remove from bottom.
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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

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To get the axles off of the engine, do you need to separate the lower ball joint and control arm in order to swing the hub assembly and strut tower out enough?
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On most cars I've had to do this, and I almost always snag the boot when using that fork tool.
Don't use the fork, hit the side of the LCA where the ball joint taper goes through, HARD, with a large ball pein or dead blow hammer.
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dont forget to leave the nut on the ball joint just in case you miss and hit the threads.
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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

So just to be clear (going by the main thread on this) I need 3 long frame jacks, not normal sized ones?

How does this make the project any easier or cheaper than renting a cherry picker? Those jacks are expensive! A engine hoist is like 40$ a day.
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i much rather fully removing the lca than dealing with the balljoint. far less to screw up...
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use the cherry picker to lift the car and drop the engine from the bottom.
i usually break the ball joint, then undo the fork for the strut, pull towards me then to the side, freeing the axle then popping it out.
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you do not need 3 jacks to drop a motor, i've dropped motors on the floor without engine cranes or cherry pickers with standard hand tools, 2 jackstands, a standard floorjack, and a spare tire
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i agree i use 2 jack stands,a floor jack and a tire.
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theres a technique i saw somewhere to break a lower ball joint using a 3/8 ratchet or something like that...
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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

Originally Posted by Pothole987
use the cherry picker to lift the car and drop the engine from the bottom.
i usually break the ball joint, then undo the fork for the strut, pull towards me then to the side, freeing the axle then popping it out.
You either have no idea what the average cherry picker looks like or you've got access to some really cool big **** and take it for granted.
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i don't know, everytime i've done a swap i just unbolt & unhook
everything & just pull the engine with a cherry picker. i would never
do a swap from the bottom enless i had to, just my opion.
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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

Originally Posted by IslandSi
You either have no idea what the average cherry picker looks like or you've got access to some really cool big **** and take it for granted.
It's slang for engine hoist man. No one would use an actual cherry picker

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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

So you guys only use one tire? Where do you use it? Just to get the car up high enough for the highest jack stand lock?

I need to take the engine out and look at the clutch before I go ordering parts. I also need to check the motor mounts to find the bad one. With this in mind I don't think spending 40$ on a hoist is worth it, because I'd have to rent it again when the parts come in.

So I'm guessing the process is:
*jack up car on stands
*take wheels off
*take components and front / rear mounts off
*loose left / right mounts
*lower car until it lands ??? Do this by the front bumper or the sides?
*remove left / right mounts
*Raise car to slide engine out ??? Do this by the front or the sides?


Where does the tire come into play?
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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

Originally Posted by willpower102
It's slang for engine hoist man. No one would use an actual cherry picker

yeah, I know that.

The guy I quoted was talking about lifting the CAR with one to be able to drop the engine out of it.
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Oooooh, lol
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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

Originally Posted by IslandSi
yeah, I know that.

The guy I quoted was talking about lifting the CAR with one to be able to drop the engine out of it.
Obviously you've never taken an engine out using that method. the tire goes on the floor under the engine, basically when you lift the car, the engine descends onto the tire.
and big gear eh? Yea i have a car hoist... i've used the engine hoist to lift the car by using a tow strap strung around the 2 motor mounts. so before you start assuming things, stfu. use your head.
O Btw.
58 minutes and your engine should be out. Yes, i've done it already.
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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

im not part of this thread but i am about to do a motor swap and you guys have me kinda confused. what is the easiest way to swap a motor? and less costly? or do we rent a picker?
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Engine picker FTW.
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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

Originally Posted by Cuda
theres a technique i saw somewhere to break a lower ball joint using a 3/8 ratchet or something like that...

half inch ratchet. 100 percent of the time it works everytime. <-- anchorman humor

I have used a hoist and ive used jacks. I like dropping the motor to the floor rather than using a hoist to lift it out.
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Default Re: When replacing an engine...? Axle and jack questions...

Originally Posted by EJ1B18c
i agree i use 2 jack stands,a floor jack and a tire.
any details on this proceedure for a noob?
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