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Old 05-21-2012, 07:19 PM
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So Last Year I hit a curb taking a turn too fast in my 2000 Civic EX Coupe and ended up bending the rim, i replaced that immediately because the steering wheel was shaking. i hit the curb straight on at about 45 MPH. When i look at the passenger side wheel compared to the driver side it looks pushed back a bit and the car pulls to the right. I had an alignment done and my caster was way different from the driver side. the shop that did the alignment told me that i should replace the Front Lower control arm. i did that and the wheel is still the same. i ended up also replacing the Upper control arm since it seemed bent too. i have a knuckle that is waiting to be installed, but that damn axle nut is a bitch to remove. so until i install the knuckle do you Honda tech masters think i might be missing anything else and is it a possibility that i might have bent the sub-frame?

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Bent subframe? Sounds like a strong possibility.
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Good probablility that the subframe is bent. Going that fast and smacking the curb I'm surprised it didn't just bend the rim but break it. Did it blow the tire when it hit?
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The tire never blew, the rim just got bent. I'm looking to have a shop loosen the axle nut so that i can install the knuckle and we'll see where this takes me as far as this whole alignment business goes.
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Don't u have an axle nut socket? Just get a long pipe ajd that sucker will come out. The longer it is the easyer it is to loosen it
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Originally Posted by mimog3
The tire never blew, the rim just got bent. I'm looking to have a shop loosen the axle nut so that i can install the knuckle and we'll see where this takes me as far as this whole alignment business goes.
Like the guy above me, you're saying you don't have a breaker bar or any piece of pipe that fits over a ratchet?

No air compressor / impact sockets or air drill/wrench?
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Go to Sears/Lowes, but a 32mm 1/2" socket, a 1/2" breaker bar, and a 2 foot length of lead pipe that will fit around the breaker bar. You won't have any problem getting the axle nut off with that, even if it was spot welded on.
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Originally Posted by gzes
Don't u have an axle nut socket? Just get a long pipe ajd that sucker will come out. The longer it is the easyer it is to loosen it

I will be the first to say....

A standard breaker and socket will NOT get the axle nut off if it is on there really tight. Even with a cheater bar.

Me and a couple friends broke 6 before we had an air gun and that still didn't work b/c the compressor was not strong enough. And we had tons of PB on it.

Ended up getting a 6ft fence post and a 1-1/4 wrench and busting it off.

So...if that sucker is on there...don't even bother using a ol' 1/2 breaker.
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I have removed literally hundreds of honda axle nuts with nothing more than a half inch breaker bar and a cheater bar. There are torque specs to those nuts, there is no reason for the nut to be on at more than 120ft. lbs. Try heating it with a torch, some people use lock-tite where they don't need to.
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I have also removed multiple with a simple breaker bar.

However, I have came across a couple that took a bit more than your average breaker.
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Bent subframe. If it was the knuckles you would likely see it.
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Yeah, I have the 32mm Socket Piece and wrench, but that nut is a bitch, i''ll have to try finding a pipe. i went to the junkyard today and picked up a sub-frame just in case, it was only $60 so I'm not stressing it. when i get some time i'll install it and let you guys know if that helped with the whole wheel set back and alignment.
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Did you undent the nut?
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
Did you undent the nut?
of course, I've loosen the driver side before so i know how its done but for some reason who ever put the nut on the passenger side made sure it wasn't coming off.
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I've had them totaly seize up, and been forced to ruin the axle to get the damn thing off.

Get a braker bar, something with a lifetime warranty! Harbor freight is good for this, just keep the reciept.
Put it on and give the damn thing hell. Cheater pipe is reccomended.
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They probably put thread locker on it. I had to do the same on my explorer since the nut kept coming loose and was dangerous
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Default Re: Wheel Pushed Back on Passenger Side

Originally Posted by gzes
They probably put thread locker on it. I had to do the same on my explorer since the nut kept coming loose and was dangerous

In the 8+ years i've been playing with these cars I've never seen one come loose that was torqued correctly.


Thats why you dent the nut, also, 1 time use only is recomended.
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