what is a hf turbo manifold from?
09-18-2003, 01:15 PM
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what is a hf turbo manifold from?
i thought it was the stoch exhaust manifold off of a 89 civic, but how can that be made into a turbo manifold? and what car is it off of?
09-18-2003, 01:17 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (hj)
HF manifold would be off an HF CRX. People sometimes use it with an adaptor plate to make a homemade turbo kit -- particularly using DSM parts.
09-18-2003, 02:40 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (SOHC_MShue)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HomemadeTurbo.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Q.
What the hell is a HF/STD/CX manifold, where can I get one and how do I know if it will fit my motor?
A.
The HF manifold came from 88-91 Honda CRX HF's, the STD manifold came from 88-91 Civic STD/DX baselines. How to tell them apart? The STD has larger ports and has an imprint of the #3 on runner #4. Check your local salvage yards, and check out the classifieds on our forum. This manifold will fit ANY D-series motor. This manifold was designed for a Pre-cat style design, No, a Turbo will not simply bolt directly to this manifold, and an adapter plate has to be made! (D16/D15 or ZC) engines will fit. Normal 4-2-1 or 4-1 manifolds will not work. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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What the hell is a HF/STD/CX manifold, where can I get one and how do I know if it will fit my motor?
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The HF manifold came from 88-91 Honda CRX HF's, the STD manifold came from 88-91 Civic STD/DX baselines. How to tell them apart? The STD has larger ports and has an imprint of the #3 on runner #4. Check your local salvage yards, and check out the classifieds on our forum. This manifold will fit ANY D-series motor. This manifold was designed for a Pre-cat style design, No, a Turbo will not simply bolt directly to this manifold, and an adapter plate has to be made! (D16/D15 or ZC) engines will fit. Normal 4-2-1 or 4-1 manifolds will not work. </TD></TR></TABLE>
09-18-2003, 02:42 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (BauleyCivic)
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09-18-2003, 04:00 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (B18C1 '96 Coupe)
along with 88-91 civic/crx's, the 92-95 CX engines had it, as well as 96-00 DX engines...i happen to have one if you're interested...decided to get a max-rev manifold so i can keep my a/c 
09-18-2003, 04:42 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (BauleyCivic)
actually it won't the 99-up d-17 engines. and that's a fact.
hey, what company makes the T3 adapter plates?? I'd definitely be interested, anyone know the web address??
hey, what company makes the T3 adapter plates?? I'd definitely be interested, anyone know the web address??
09-18-2003, 04:48 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (poison)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poison »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HF manifold would be off an HF CRX. People sometimes use it with an adaptor plate to make a homemade turbo kit -- particularly using DSM parts.</TD></TR></TABLE> 
My uncle got a turbo and got the manifold straight from an old D-series. And it worked!
My uncle got a turbo and got the manifold straight from an old D-series. And it worked!
09-18-2003, 04:49 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (Infinity_Racer)
<FONT SIZE="4"><FONT COLOR="darkblue">SHOPPING LIST:</FONT> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="purple">From Local Performance Shop</FONT>
Three 2.23 inch U-bend steel $17
One 2.5 inch 90 degree aluminized bend - $25
One down pipe flange $10
One down pipe gasket $8
One 1G blow off valve flange $10 (1st gen eclipse)
One 1G blow off valve gasket $4 (1st gen eclipse)
One 6mm gasket $3
One turbo-to-oxygen sensor housing gasket $5
One oil return line new $55 used $10 (may have to widen the opening)
One oil return gasket $1
One silicone 2.25 inch to 2 inch reducer hose $18
One foot of rubber 2.25 inch hose - $12 per foot
Nine 2.75 inch heavy duty clamps $2 each
One 3 inch heavy duty clamp - $2.50
One 1G blow off valve $90 new $5-$40 used (1st gen eclipse)
One 2G T25 Turbo - $25-$150 (2nd gen eclipse)
One 1G oxygen sensor housing $10-$20 (1st gen eclipse)
One 2G stock intercooler core - $10-$50 (2nd gen eclipse)
<FONT COLOR="purple">From Local Salvage Yard</FONT>
One HF CRX manifold $20 to $50
<FONT COLOR="purple">Local Auto Parts Store (pep boys/autozone)</FONT>
One 60 inch long .25 hard line $1.69
One 1/8 inch NPT male to male fitting $1.49
One 1/8 inch NPT femal "T" fitting $2.19
One 1/8 inch male to 1/4 inch pipe female fitting $1.49
One 1/2 inch ID rubber hose, 1 foot $1.99
One can of high temp engine paint $3.99
Four quarts of oil $9.16
One oil filter $4.15
They did mention the adapter plate in the article, but not on the list, so here is the specs on that, word for word from the article.
Using the HF manifold as a guide, center it on a piece of .75 x 4 x 5 inche flat steel plate that is roughly big enough to mate the header and turbo. Mark and center punch the four holes on the manifold. Drill and tap with a 10mm x 1.25mm tap .5 inch deep for all four holes, but do NOT go all the way through. If you prefer you can skip this process and weld the plate directly to the manifold. But i know some people dont have welders. Here is a pic of the adapter plate
<FONT COLOR="purple">Tools Needed</FONT>
Basic mechanics tools - Sockets, wrenches, etc.
Grinder
Tape measure
Center hole punch
Die Grinder
Drill pess/hand drill
Drill bits
2 inch hole saw
Welder
The least we spent was $225 & the most was about $560
<FONT COLOR="purple">From Local Performance Shop</FONT>
Three 2.23 inch U-bend steel $17
One 2.5 inch 90 degree aluminized bend - $25
One down pipe flange $10
One down pipe gasket $8
One 1G blow off valve flange $10 (1st gen eclipse)
One 1G blow off valve gasket $4 (1st gen eclipse)
One 6mm gasket $3
One turbo-to-oxygen sensor housing gasket $5
One oil return line new $55 used $10 (may have to widen the opening)
One oil return gasket $1
One silicone 2.25 inch to 2 inch reducer hose $18
One foot of rubber 2.25 inch hose - $12 per foot
Nine 2.75 inch heavy duty clamps $2 each
One 3 inch heavy duty clamp - $2.50
One 1G blow off valve $90 new $5-$40 used (1st gen eclipse)
One 2G T25 Turbo - $25-$150 (2nd gen eclipse)
One 1G oxygen sensor housing $10-$20 (1st gen eclipse)
One 2G stock intercooler core - $10-$50 (2nd gen eclipse)
<FONT COLOR="purple">From Local Salvage Yard</FONT>
One HF CRX manifold $20 to $50
<FONT COLOR="purple">Local Auto Parts Store (pep boys/autozone)</FONT>
One 60 inch long .25 hard line $1.69
One 1/8 inch NPT male to male fitting $1.49
One 1/8 inch NPT femal "T" fitting $2.19
One 1/8 inch male to 1/4 inch pipe female fitting $1.49
One 1/2 inch ID rubber hose, 1 foot $1.99
One can of high temp engine paint $3.99
Four quarts of oil $9.16
One oil filter $4.15
They did mention the adapter plate in the article, but not on the list, so here is the specs on that, word for word from the article.
Using the HF manifold as a guide, center it on a piece of .75 x 4 x 5 inche flat steel plate that is roughly big enough to mate the header and turbo. Mark and center punch the four holes on the manifold. Drill and tap with a 10mm x 1.25mm tap .5 inch deep for all four holes, but do NOT go all the way through. If you prefer you can skip this process and weld the plate directly to the manifold. But i know some people dont have welders. Here is a pic of the adapter plate
<FONT COLOR="purple">Tools Needed</FONT>
Basic mechanics tools - Sockets, wrenches, etc.
Grinder
Tape measure
Center hole punch
Die Grinder
Drill pess/hand drill
Drill bits
2 inch hole saw
Welder
The least we spent was $225 & the most was about $560
09-18-2003, 04:58 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (1 point 6)
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wow dude, that's a ghetto adapter plate and the man hours into must have been hell
when to think all you had to do was spend $50 for this one:
mmmm....cnc milled adapter plate complete with threaded bosses for $50
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wow dude, that's a ghetto adapter plate and the man hours into must have been hell
when to think all you had to do was spend $50 for this one:
mmmm....cnc milled adapter plate complete with threaded bosses for $50
09-18-2003, 05:15 PM
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Re: (1 point 6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 point 6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$50 bucks, pfft cant beat FREE.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, can't beat being able to retain your a/c in 110 degree full sun dead-stop traffic either...which that $50 spot adapter plate lets you do...
can your free plate do that? doesn't look like it
but true, it IS free...labor doesn't cost you a thing
yeah, can't beat being able to retain your a/c in 110 degree full sun dead-stop traffic either...which that $50 spot adapter plate lets you do...
can your free plate do that? doesn't look like it
but true, it IS free...labor doesn't cost you a thing
09-18-2003, 05:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stackz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah, can't beat being able to retain your a/c in 110 degree full sun dead-stop traffic either...which that $50 spot adapter plate lets you do...
can your free plate do that? doesn't look like it
but true, it IS free...labor doesn't cost you a thing</TD></TR></TABLE>
AC? thats for girls.
And im in ARIZONA, so i can talk about heat.
Even though i would kill for some AC right now.
yeah, can't beat being able to retain your a/c in 110 degree full sun dead-stop traffic either...which that $50 spot adapter plate lets you do...
can your free plate do that? doesn't look like it
but true, it IS free...labor doesn't cost you a thing</TD></TR></TABLE>
AC? thats for girls.
And im in ARIZONA, so i can talk about heat.
Even though i would kill for some AC right now.
09-18-2003, 05:22 PM
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Re: (1 point 6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 point 6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
AC? thats for girls.
And im in ARIZONA, so i can talk about heat.
Even though i would kill for some AC right now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
AC? thats for girls.
And im in ARIZONA, so i can talk about heat.
Even though i would kill for some AC right now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
09-18-2003, 06:38 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (stackz)
Where can I get this adapter? One thing that has held me back from doing this is that I would like to keep my AC. INFO please!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stackz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wow dude, that's a ghetto adapter plate and the man hours into must have been hell
when to think all you had to do was spend $50 for this one:
mmmm....cnc milled adapter plate complete with threaded bosses for $50 </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stackz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wow dude, that's a ghetto adapter plate and the man hours into must have been hell
when to think all you had to do was spend $50 for this one:
mmmm....cnc milled adapter plate complete with threaded bosses for $50
</TD></TR></TABLE>
09-18-2003, 06:42 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (Kikomon)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kikomon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
only 88-91 had the home made turbo manifold</TD></TR></TABLE>
wrong. my 93 CX had it. anyone want it? $55 shippped
only 88-91 had the home made turbo manifold</TD></TR></TABLE>
wrong. my 93 CX had it. anyone want it? $55 shippped
09-18-2003, 06:47 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (stackz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stackz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually it won't the 99-up d-17 engines. and that's a fact.
hey, what company makes the T3 adapter plates?? I'd definitely be interested, anyone know the web address??</TD></TR></TABLE>
the d17 is 01-up
the 96-00 dx/lx/cx manifold CANNOT be used for this... i'm looking at one right now, the pre-cat is actually integrated into the manifold.. no bolts or flanges to be used.
hey, what company makes the T3 adapter plates?? I'd definitely be interested, anyone know the web address??</TD></TR></TABLE>
the d17 is 01-up
the 96-00 dx/lx/cx manifold CANNOT be used for this... i'm looking at one right now, the pre-cat is actually integrated into the manifold.. no bolts or flanges to be used.
09-18-2003, 06:51 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (pucho)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pucho »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where can I get this adapter? One thing that has held me back from doing this is that I would like to keep my AC. INFO please!!!
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ok, first guys, I won't guarantee that plate will allow you to keep your a/c...it just depends on how you align it to the manifold and all basically. anyway, his ebay user ID is "boerner_mfg_co" I'm currently trying to work with him on the design of a truly a/c friendly low buck HF manifold adapter though so I'd say hang in there a few weeks for future developments.
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ok, first guys, I won't guarantee that plate will allow you to keep your a/c...it just depends on how you align it to the manifold and all basically. anyway, his ebay user ID is "boerner_mfg_co" I'm currently trying to work with him on the design of a truly a/c friendly low buck HF manifold adapter though so I'd say hang in there a few weeks for future developments.
09-18-2003, 06:53 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (soccaian)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soccaian »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the d17 is 01-up
the 96-00 dx/lx/cx manifold CANNOT be used for this... i'm looking at one right now, the pre-cat is actually integrated into the manifold.. no bolts or flanges to be used.</TD></TR></TABLE>
doh, yeah, that's what I meant haha... I have no idea where my brain was at that moment
the d17 is 01-up
the 96-00 dx/lx/cx manifold CANNOT be used for this... i'm looking at one right now, the pre-cat is actually integrated into the manifold.. no bolts or flanges to be used.</TD></TR></TABLE>
doh, yeah, that's what I meant haha...
I have no idea where my brain was at that moment
09-18-2003, 08:12 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (soccaian)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soccaian »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the 96-00 dx/lx/cx manifold CANNOT be used for this... i'm looking at one right now, the pre-cat is actually integrated into the manifold.. no bolts or flanges to be used.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Can you take a pic of it? I swear i read somewhere about those manifolds? Just cant picture in my head how it'd look like
Thanks
the 96-00 dx/lx/cx manifold CANNOT be used for this... i'm looking at one right now, the pre-cat is actually integrated into the manifold.. no bolts or flanges to be used.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Can you take a pic of it? I swear i read somewhere about those manifolds? Just cant picture in my head how it'd look like
Thanks
09-18-2003, 08:13 PM
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Re: what is a hf turbo manifold from? (Infinity_Racer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Infinity_Racer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Can you take a pic of it? I swear i read somewhere about those manifolds? Just cant picture in my head how it'd look like
Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have a manifold from a 93 CX that is going to work fine.
Can you take a pic of it? I swear i read somewhere about those manifolds? Just cant picture in my head how it'd look like
Thanks
</TD></TR></TABLE>I have a manifold from a 93 CX that is going to work fine.