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Old 08-09-2008, 03:55 PM
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Default What ECU/Header for a eg with a b16a

ok so i admit i am pretty much a newb when it comes to what parts to use on swapped civics.

i have a 93 hatch with a b16a stock asides from gsr cams.

currently i have a stock p28 ecu it runs good with no cel or anything but the rev limit is real low and the car honestly doesnt feel as peppy as i think it should (comparing to SOHC civics) also if the p72 won't work what ecu should i use, i dont want to have the p28 chipped.

what i want to know is can i use a p72 ecu off a GSR to run my car? not too sure about this one.

and can i use a Greddy GSR header for the car as well? i figure b series headers are about the same but i want to make sure it will work before i purchase these parts.

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I dont see how a stock p28 would work well with a b16a, its what i use for my d16z6. Shouldnt u be running the correct ecu for the engine? otherwise you could chip and tune it for the engine but it would be easier to just find the correct ecu.
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If it's a 92-95 B16A then P30 if I'm not mistaken?
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i have the same swap in my EG and i run a p61 ecu.....and it runs "peppy" with my gsr tranny...good luck with the search
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cycopath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If it's a 92-95 B16A then P30 if I'm not mistaken?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct , Chipped P28 will also run it, but you state that you don't want to chip.
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p30 obd1 will run it like a champ!
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ok so basically you guys are all saying the p28 shouldnt allow my car to run right... even tho it is.

i dont really know much about the car, i purchased it swapped and what the guy told me is its a unmolested (stock) p28. like i said i have no CEL's and i know the light bulb is in there cause i had a CEL a couple weeks ago (unrelated)

its not a 92-95 B16a i am pretty sure its an older one... i just dont know what freaking ECU i should be using... Also would the GSR header work? lol no one has even touched that yet.

and say if i was to build a poormans ITR would a p72 work? or should i just get my p28 chipped and give up on figuring out what ECU to use.

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a p28 will run it fine, it just wont run as strong and wont rev as high as it should. but it will be good enough to get you going, i ran mine off a p28 when i swapped it until i could get it chipped. if you run a p30 you will have to wire up the knock sensor. with a chipped p28 you do not. i used parts for 99-00si as far as header and cai goes. exhaust and everything bolted up perfect. mines in a 94 si.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dividedas1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so basically you guys are all saying the p28 shouldnt allow my car to run right... even tho it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't say its running right, fuel and timing maps aren't right for that engine and your redlining about 1000RPM too early

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dividedas1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont really know much about the car, i purchased it swapped and what the guy told me is its a unmolested (stock) p28. like i said i have no CEL's and i know the light bulb is in there cause i had a CEL a couple weeks ago (unrelated)</TD></TR></TABLE>

It isn't going to throw any CELs, as long as all sensors are hooked up correctly and functioning<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dividedas1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are functional the ECU isn't going to throw any codes

[QUOTE=dividedas1]its not a 92-95 B16a i am pretty sure its an older one...</TD></TR></TABLE>

As long as the wiring its been converted to OBD1 it doesn't matter if it was originally OBD0, OBD1 or OBD2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dividedas1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just dont know what freaking ECU i should be using...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its been said three times P30 from a '94 - '95 Del Sol DOHC Vtec, or if emissions testing isn't a concern P30 from a '92 - '95 JDM Civic SiR, SiRII.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dividedas1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also would the GSR header work? lol no one has even touched that yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It should, but it might be slightly lower to the ground due to the B18Cs taller deck height.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dividedas1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and say if i was to build a poormans ITR would a p72 work? or should i just get my p28 chipped and give up on figuring out what ECU to use.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You could use either, but i'd probably go with a chipped P28, P72 fuel and timing maps are probably going to be slightly off, not by very much though.
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thanks i appreciate the info.
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