Bense

Okay, after many hours of calculating here's something that i've come up with:



as you can see, i used a b16 2nd gear for the first gear, a b16 3rd gear for the second gear, a b16 4th gear for the third gear, a b16 5th gear for the fourth gear, and a ls 5th gear for the fifth gear.

now yes, that is a fairly steep first gear, however, i think that it would work out fine. By doing this you would get the acceleration advantage of a b16 tranny with a higher final drive without having to take the infamous 80mph hit. Lemme know what you guys think


and heres a chart that i made

Filliam H. Muffman

do it and tell us how it turns out.

BauleyCivic

Riiiiigggghhhhttttt.....

Bense

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are you saying that because you don't think it would work?

BauleyCivic

What is the point of a first gear that ends at 56 mph? Have you ever tried starting in 2nd gear?

Not to mention you can break a shifter fork downshifting into 1st gear too quickly, imagine how hard it would be if first was that long.

MrMike

its wishfull thinking but u can't just interchange gears like that. There are two shafts inside a transmission. each has a gear that makes up each gear(1-5). 1st and 2nd are part of the input shaft and countershaft which are not removeable. to change 1st and 2nd u need all new shafts. Thats why some custom gear sets only have 3rd, 4th, and 5th gears. The other gears are removeable but they all have their places on the shaft. U'd have to do some modifications to the gears themeselves to move them around like making them larger or smaller.

jdmsiR20

so... does it all fit together?


btw, go fsu!

BauleyCivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrMike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its wishfull thinking but u can't just interchange gears like that. There are two shafts inside a transmission. each has a gear that makes up each gear(1-5). 1st and 2nd are part of the input shaft and countershaft which are not removeable. to change 1st and 2nd u need all new shafts. Thats why some custom gear sets only have 3rd, 4th, and 5th gears. The other gears are removeable but they all have their places on the shaft. U'd have to do some modifications to the gears themeselves to move them around like making them larger or smaller. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah and that too...

Redline96LX

Thank you for the info post.

MrMike

http://www.a-t-s-usa.com/ats-p...shtml

u can change 1st and 2nd by changing the countershaft.

anothersickhatch

dont understand why you would even want any of that.

Evs-One

nearly impossible without custom shafts being made

90civichb

At least its a technical post...

Someone at least give some better ideas to achieve something close to what he has come up with(if it won't work as he has posted it)...

BUMP

RadRonny

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FSU is not the football team its...**** **** UP....4 LIFE


Modified by KarmaPaymentPlan at 6:43 AM 10/29/2004

David R

Why would you want to do that?? Making the ratio's longer seems like a stupid idea unless you've got a torquey engine that doesnt rev [ie not a honda engine].
My friends CTR has the standard CTR box with a 98spec ITR final drive and it's awesome, especially with the 1.8L b16b

chronodyne28

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My friends CTR has the standard CTR box with a 98spec ITR final drive and it's awesome, especially with the 1.8L b16b </TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed. You would need a real torquey motor for those settings to be worthwhile. But then again do it and post your quarter mile resuts. You might prove us wrong but it's not likely.

Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chronodyne28 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Agreed. You would need a real torquey motor for those settings to be worthwhile. But then again do it and post your quarter mile resuts. You might prove us wrong but it's not likely.</TD></TR></TABLE>

read this:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as you can see, i used a b16 2nd gear for the first gear, a b16 3rd gear for the second gear, a b16 4th gear for the third gear, a b16 5th gear for the fourth gear, and a ls 5th gear for the fifth gear.

now yes, that is a fairly steep first gear, however, i think that it would work out fine. By doing this you would get the acceleration advantage of a b16 tranny with a higher final drive without having to take the infamous 80mph hit. Lemme know what you guys think</TD></TR></TABLE>

once again. If you get a high final drive, it makes all your gears shorter. It makes your first gear become extremely short, almost to a point where it's too short. It also shortens your 5th gear so that when you're cruising on the highway, your rpms are cranking higher than you'd want them to be.

think of it like this. A 6speed b16 transmission with a high final drive and the sixth gear would be the LS 5th gear. This transmission setup that i came up would be just like that, it it was possible. The only thing is, is that it wouldn't have the really short first gear which I'm assuming that you wouldn't need anyways.