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Old 08-12-2010, 11:33 AM
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Default What do i need to build a 14 to 13 second d16

it's a 95 civic ex with a d16 vtec head and d15b7 block, i just want to be able to beat my friends so what would i need to make it do 14's to 13's seconds. Can i do it without using a turbo?
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it's a 95 civic ex with a d16 vtec head and d15b7 block, i just want to be able to beat my friends so what would i need to make it do 14's to 13's seconds. Can i do it without using a turbo?
yes you can but you will need lots of money
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without turbo - yes and it will cost about the same or more than a B-swap
with turbo - easy and it can be done for less than $400.
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yea like seriously large amounts of money. be much cheaper to hit those times with boost.
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Default Re: What do i need to build a 14 to 13 second d16

just get a turbo kit and boost you can hit 14's on a stock block but not many are fans of the d15 your better off with a z6 or a6 block. im running low 14's on a stock z6 turbo on 10psi with a gt28r
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Default Re: What do i need to build a 14 to 13 second d16

You'll need about 250-260whp. I have a 246whp all motor EG hatch and I run consistent 14.2's on street tires @ Bristol Motor Speedway which is notorious for running horrible times. So if I were at another track that runs faster it would be a mid 13 car.
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Default Re: What do i need to build a 14 to 13 second d16

Definately can be accomplished just by bolting on a turbo and gettin a nice tune. also i have many parts for d16's including a full z6 swap, a bare block(d16z6), pistons, rods, bisimoto valvetrain w/ 3.6 turbo cam, aem ecu, and much more if you need anything. my turbo got stolen so canj't help there but good luck man hope it comesout great
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I'm not trying to be an ***, but the difference between a 14 second timeslip and a 13 second timeslip is freaking HUGE!!! I'm sure there's some clever car length calculator to try and calculate the difference in car lengths, but I'd imagine it'd be like 8 car lengths or more between a 13.0 car and a 14.0 car.

That's a really big gap there. Having said this it'd be nice to hammer your goal down to more of a "firmed up" time so that suggestions can be made to you to try and help you attain the goal.

Also this topic is teetering on fully blown "e-racing" which is basically a discussion involving "my car vs. my friend's car" so let's try and just keep this a topic about your car reaching a particular horsepower and ET/trap speed goal.
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Default Re: What do i need to build a 14 to 13 second d16

Originally Posted by JoshDoyle
You'll need about 250-260whp. I have a 246whp all motor EG hatch and I run consistent 14.2's on street tires @ Bristol Motor Speedway which is notorious for running horrible times. So if I were at another track that runs faster it would be a mid 13 car.
What is the elevation at that strip, and what kind of 60 footers are you pulling?

I've ran 13.3@104mph with a 2.0 60 footer at 1100ft. above sea level with only 175whp in a 2010lb. EG hatch.

How much does your car weigh? I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything, but those times are pretty crazy/odd for the whp you've got.
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Default Re: What do i need to build a 14 to 13 second d16

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Agreed...180 whp should get you in the 13s easily. You'd have to be at some crazy elevation or being running bicycle tires to get 14s with 240+ whp.

EDIT:
Ah, Bristol, TN, elevation 1672'. With the .9822 sec correction factor, that would put him in the low 13s at sea level.

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Default Re: What do i need to build a 14 to 13 second d16

i pulled mid-high 13's all day with a b16a in a completely (and i mean completely) gutted eg hatch. you dont need power so much as driving experience, a decent clutch, and tires that will try to stick. dont chase numbers on a small budget, youll break ****.
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