What are consider illegal modifications?
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Technically, that is a modification
If any mod is automatically illegal, please explain why I haven't received thousands of dollars in tickets?
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How about this. If anyone can't cite the code stating that something is illegal, don't tell us it is. State and federal code are obscenely easy to find online. I have a full copy of VA state code, including inspection code, downloaded, and it took me all of 15 minutes to find it when I wanted it.
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as long as you aren't an idiot the cops here don't care.
HIDs are illegal outside of projectors. inside projectors they are legal. IIRC.
depending on what you do to your exhaust it could be illegal. removing the cat for example is actually federally(I believe) illegal. along with any emissions system part.
in the end though google the laws and code for WA. then you'll know everything for where you are.
HIDs are illegal outside of projectors. inside projectors they are legal. IIRC.
depending on what you do to your exhaust it could be illegal. removing the cat for example is actually federally(I believe) illegal. along with any emissions system part.
in the end though google the laws and code for WA. then you'll know everything for where you are.
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Seriously, OP, take 10 minutes and go find your state's Code regarding vehicles and modifications. When you get a ticket for an illegal muffler, "But the guys on honda-tech said it was legal!" isn't going to **** in court.
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I believe this is federal law, HIDs are illegal if they didn't come in the car from the factory. A newer car factory equipped with HIDs, legal. A 1990s Civic, no.
Here, the law states that no modification is allowed that makes the car louder, however I don't have a cat and have an aftermarket catback exhaust. I don't get pulled over because it's quiet though. Louder than stock, but still perfectly tolerable where you can have a normal conversation in the car with the windows down while driving.
Emissions, totally depends where you go. We don't have emissions testing.
Height, we have slammed Hondas and lifted trucks on the road.
Here, the law states that no modification is allowed that makes the car louder, however I don't have a cat and have an aftermarket catback exhaust. I don't get pulled over because it's quiet though. Louder than stock, but still perfectly tolerable where you can have a normal conversation in the car with the windows down while driving.
Emissions, totally depends where you go. We don't have emissions testing.
Height, we have slammed Hondas and lifted trucks on the road.
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as long as you aren't an idiot the cops here don't care.
HIDs are illegal outside of projectors. inside projectors they are legal. IIRC.
depending on what you do to your exhaust it could be illegal. removing the cat for example is actually federally(I believe) illegal. along with any emissions system part.
in the end though google the laws and code for WA. then you'll know everything for where you are.
HIDs are illegal outside of projectors. inside projectors they are legal. IIRC.
depending on what you do to your exhaust it could be illegal. removing the cat for example is actually federally(I believe) illegal. along with any emissions system part.
in the end though google the laws and code for WA. then you'll know everything for where you are.
For example, in cali if you pull the cat and are caught it's a $1000+ ticket. I don't remember the exact number, but it's close to that.
I am not sure how it is other places, and in WA where I live, but it's not legal in any way shape of form to remove a cat. Even selling a used cat is illegal.
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The RCW says that the exhaust/muffler can't be modified to be louder than stock. So you can technically have a custom high flow system that's quiet. Or at least not much louder than stock. What a lot of people do is use a stock looking exhaust tip. Hondas didn't come with a 4" burnt titanium tip lol
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I think the cop was pullin' your pud dude
I'm a vehicle inspector in Texas, and as long as your vehicle passes emissions, along with no leaking steering or brake system, all lights/wipers work, you're legal.
But as Grumblemarc stated, it doesn't help the OP much to give area-specific info if he isn't there
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I run an asbestos-wrapped open lead downpipe with a 150 shot of anhydrous hydrazine.
And Skunk2 muffler (w/a very small hole)
Never got a ticket.
And Skunk2 muffler (w/a very small hole)
Never got a ticket.
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How the hell was your car lowered five inches below the legal limit
I think the cop was pullin' your pud dude
I'm a vehicle inspector in Texas, and as long as your vehicle passes emissions, along with no leaking steering or brake system, all lights/wipers work, you're legal.
But as Grumblemarc stated, it doesn't help the OP much to give area-specific info if he isn't there
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I think the cop was pullin' your pud dude
I'm a vehicle inspector in Texas, and as long as your vehicle passes emissions, along with no leaking steering or brake system, all lights/wipers work, you're legal.
But as Grumblemarc stated, it doesn't help the OP much to give area-specific info if he isn't there
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Re: What are consider illegal modifications?
How about this. Instead of all of this supposition and guessing with absolutely zero evidence to back anything up, http://www.municode.com/Library. Select your locale, and find out for yourself what's legal and what isn't. 10 minutes of reading, and I've already discovered a few things that I was incorrect about. Time to start looking at some new mufflers!
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Also worth mentioning, and to keep anyone from not FULLY reading...
At the top of every section vehicle-related, there is usually a section similar to this.
The TL;DR version is this: Everything in this section applies, and so does everything else the state says. Break a state law, and the locality (city or county) will also enforce it.
For example. Charlottesville city code states that no passenger vehicle may emit more than 76 dBA at 35MPH, and no more than 86 at 70MPH. Awesome, I can go get a loud muffler, right? Wrong.
State code says the following.
There might be three people who regularly visit this section of the forums who is mentally capable of talking about the LAW when it comes to our cars. Until you read it in the state code, it doesn't matter what your "bro" told you. It doesn't even matter what a cop tells you. Find your city and state code. Read it. Learn it. Know it.
At the top of every section vehicle-related, there is usually a section similar to this.
Pursuant to the authority of Code of Virginia, sections 46.2-1300 and 46.2-1313, all of the provisions and requirements of the state set forth within the following provisions of the Code of Virginia, are hereby adopted, mutatis mutandis, and incorporated by reference, as if set forth herein verbatim, except those provisions and requirements which, by their very nature, can have no application to or within the city:
(1)
Title 46.2, in its entirety;
(2)
Title 18.2, Chapter 7, Article 2 (§ 18.2-266 et seq.), in its entirety; and
(3)
Title 16.1, Chapter 11, Article 9 (§ 16.1-278 et seq.), in its entirety.
The above-referenced provisions refer to those in effect on the effective date of this ordinance and to any future amendments to those provisions, and to successor titles, chapters, articles and sections as they may become effective.
(b)
Any references to "highway" or to "highways of the state" contained in any of the above-referenced state code provisions shall be deemed to refer to the entire width between the boundary lines of every way or place open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel within the City of Charlottesville.
(1)
Title 46.2, in its entirety;
(2)
Title 18.2, Chapter 7, Article 2 (§ 18.2-266 et seq.), in its entirety; and
(3)
Title 16.1, Chapter 11, Article 9 (§ 16.1-278 et seq.), in its entirety.
The above-referenced provisions refer to those in effect on the effective date of this ordinance and to any future amendments to those provisions, and to successor titles, chapters, articles and sections as they may become effective.
(b)
Any references to "highway" or to "highways of the state" contained in any of the above-referenced state code provisions shall be deemed to refer to the entire width between the boundary lines of every way or place open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel within the City of Charlottesville.
For example. Charlottesville city code states that no passenger vehicle may emit more than 76 dBA at 35MPH, and no more than 86 at 70MPH. Awesome, I can go get a loud muffler, right? Wrong.
State code says the following.
It shall be unlawful for any person to operate on the highways in the Commonwealth a motor vehicle, moped, or motorized skateboard or scooter equipped with a gutted muffler, muffler cutout, or straight exhaust.
It shall be unlawful for any person to operate on the highways in the Commonwealth a motor vehicle, as described in this section, equipped with any emission control system or device unless it is of a type installed as standard factory equipment, or comparable to that designed for use upon the particular vehicle as standard factory equipment.
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No one wants to touch the subject on headlight hight tho. cd players and turbo's come on factory cars, not hondas. Ask any cop about a cat being removed , for smog states or not.
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In central ohio what gets you pulled over the fastest is no front tag, and driving with undercarriage neons on. Never heard any of my friends being pulled over for exhaust issues. We don't have emmisions testing btw.
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Once again, read my last post. Different states, different laws.
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How the hell was your car lowered five inches below the legal limit
I think the cop was pullin' your pud dude
I'm a vehicle inspector in Texas, and as long as your vehicle passes emissions, along with no leaking steering or brake system, all lights/wipers work, you're legal.
But as Grumblemarc stated, it doesn't help the OP much to give area-specific info if he isn't there
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I think the cop was pullin' your pud dude
I'm a vehicle inspector in Texas, and as long as your vehicle passes emissions, along with no leaking steering or brake system, all lights/wipers work, you're legal.
But as Grumblemarc stated, it doesn't help the OP much to give area-specific info if he isn't there
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Seondly, roads here have a crown in them in here. If you measure both sides of the car, both would have had different measurements. Was he ****ing with me? It's possible, but, my car was that
low... I was in the road when I got pulled over. I had to stop in the road, there was no where else I could go.
It's not hard to get these cars low.
Well it's about time BobbyRodriguez gets banned.
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How about this. Instead of all of this supposition and guessing with absolutely zero evidence to back anything up, http://www.municode.com/Library. Select your locale, and find out for yourself what's legal and what isn't. 10 minutes of reading, and I've already discovered a few things that I was incorrect about. Time to start looking at some new mufflers!
EVERYONE should check this out.