v192

hi im new to cars and would like to know what i can do to modify my 1992 honda civic si . it already has a regular intake , headers and exaust . i want it to be nice and fast but i dont know alot about cars so any opinions would be nice . i want it to have maybe around 170-200 horsepower. thanks

Bejita

Turbo. Start saving and researching.

v192

turbo = too much $

but what could i do to add around 30plus hp .

also how much do carbon fiber hoods go for?

redlinexd

I/H/E, cam gears if u dont live in cali, pulleys, intake manifold, throttle body, dam i dunno how u can get 170-200 unless u turbo, supercharge, or swap it.

96teggylsse

NO.... turbo=the cheapest, and prob. the most reliable way to make 170 hp unless you do a swap... the gsr motor swap is going to run you about 3000$ roughly and i could turbo that soch motor for prob. 1500$ so you make the decision... either way. its gonna cost quite a bit to get 170+hp... so do your research... i would just boost 8 psi and do a good tune with a good clutch.. and youll be set

v192

ok so maybe not 170hp but what about 140-150?

slacks

yeah
just like the others... FI (turbo,nitrous, supercharger) are the only real ways to get any gains from such a motor.

I would start saving up, and while you do that... go and explore your options.

you sound like me a few months ago it's almost scary lol.

if you need any advice hit me up on aim (styraphone) or here on HT
and good luck with whatever you start to do!

v192

so what about this for now, intake manifold and cam gears ?? what would this do ?

edit* what does I/H/E mean ?

speedooo

blow it up and swap it. 140 na whp with a single cam will cost more than a turbo kit

AutoXer

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Not much. To get as much hp with low displacement as the motors do stock, they're pretty much tuned as much as they can be from the factory. Some cheaper parts can actually hinder performance. You're only going to get a few hp at best with bolt on parts, and they'll cost quite a bit. Forced induction is the only way to go get close to what you want. You'll spend 3 or 4 times as much with bolt ons and not even get close.

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Intake header exhaust

v192

^ im not going to be racing it so i dont wanna put all that money in to it but i just want it to be decent . u know ?


edit * nevermind , i thought i would be looking at around $ 3000 for a turbo kit , but i was looking around and found this

http://titanmotorsports.com/grtukit92cis.html

i could afford this , what do you think ?

AutoXer

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Doesn't matter what the end use is; to get to what you're describing is talking about a lot of money. You're better off not doing anything, because you'll just be wasting money that you could be saving for a turbo or a swap.

After picking up the IC (which you should get) and whatever misc. things you will need, you'll be pushing over 2K, possibly close to 3K. If you sit back, wait and do some research, you can build a 'junkyard' turbo for 1/2 that price. Kits will always run for a premium.

chai_ek9

i dont u should get a greddy kit ( if u live n cali). for ur year car the greddy kit doesnt come with a intercooler or a blow off value. u have to spend money on that if u want more power. *and u have to take out ur after marke header.*

vargas

i kinda have the same questions , what all will a " 9Lb flywheel, some Zc pistons and nice Zex cam" do ? and for how much will all this cost including installation ??

rleonekc

Do ALOT of researching before you do anything...doesn't look like your ready to start modding your car

vargas

ok does this sound good , ?
cam , pistons, flywheel. and for how much u think i could get all of this including installation

Libertariat

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cam , pistons, flywheel. and for how much u think i could get all of this including installation</TD></TR></TABLE>

You'll spend twice the amount of money on an n/a build to make a sohc fast.

The ONLY way to make a sohc make 150whp+ and have spent the least money is to turbo it.

If money is an issue. Give up now. It takes money to play. I've been saving for 3 years now and I still drive a stock 2000 civic. It will still be next summer before I'm ready to add suspension and wheels. Much less an engine.

h22ek9forme

you want to install new cams and pistons,
but you dont want to swap it or turbo it???????????????????


just get a LS swap.

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stein_k_9

b20 vtech swap ne one? or turbo

Bejita

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cam , pistons, flywheel. and for how much u think i could get all of this including installation</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cams and pistons require more than you think. When you tear into the engine that deep you're going to have to replace other parts along the way. Not to mention ECU tuning.

h22ek9forme

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Syndacate

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You will never pull 170-200hp all motor for any reasonable amount of money. Not only will it cost you more than a turbo or swap, but your car will barely be streetable (idling at 2.5k, very rough idle due to highly aggressive cams creating cam overlay, etc.) - not recommended if you know as much (or little) as you do (actually I don't recommend it at all).

Learn that 125hp means **** - that's 125 brake horsepower (engine horsepower), the horsepower measured at the wheels (in Si units that's Newton Meters (N*m)) converted to HP is around 100-105hp. A 30hp gain would put you around 130-135 at the wheels, not 170.

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but what could i do to add around 30plus hp .

also how much do carbon fiber hoods go for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You want 30+ hp with bolt-on crap get a V8, where you can bolt on headers and gain 30hp at the wheels.

The amount of $ it'll take to get your Z6 to have 30hp (which will put it around 130hp at the wheels) will cost more than a cheap, used, turbo kit.


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My advice:

Get over the fact that it's slow, swap, or turbo. You won't pull any real power out of it for any reasonable price unless you turbocharge it, in which case you can hit your 170-200whp mark no problem.

91_civic_si

Just make up your mind... cam,pully and flywheel is not going to do anything.. first of all your head will be stock and if not then it will run you alot more to have someone else put the head together( having a cam and a stock head is pointless, with or without a tune)..... then a pully,**** not so much there and flywheel forget about that not much there either... and why would you fix your motor and not race it? just buy my grand moms car a cadi CTS. you could drive it around and buy grocies and be home in time for murder she wrote. like all the guys are saying just do a swap or turbo or just get NOS(dry kit) at 150 shot but then you will be able to buy a swap after you blow it... .