bunkrd you

I'm planning on picking up a b16a2 with tranny that was pulled from a 00 and put it into my 00 civic coupe dx. Currently I have the 1.6l and was wondering where to start so far I was think a stage 2 clutch with lightened flywheel, turbo kit and run 8psi. Im pretty set on those two but only have enough in budget to either run new pistons and rods, or a new crank shaft and cam gears. Realistically if I decided to build the motor with the clutch, turbo at 8 psi, cam gears, crank shaft, pistons and rods where would that put me for estimated hp. Also if I did do pistons and rods would the other internals be okay with running a slightly higher compression ratio? Basically all in all I would like so guidence before I start building the motor. My goal is to around 230-260 hp if that helps any. If that is completely out of the question feel free to redirect me as needed. Thanks in advanced.

hyperblu

This will be another one of those 1 posters and gone by tonight... Mark my words.
Why would you put a new crank and cam gears on to make an extra 80 hp? and how would you benefit from it?
We can't bench dyno from what you say you want to do, so realistically, we cant tell you what hp you could make.
b16A2's are a high compression motor and are not good candidates for boost unless you drop the compression ratio a bit thus changing rods and pistons anyway...
You can run 30psi boost and your compression ratio wouldnt change, thus not affecting your other internals, besides the valves.

Red_Army

no idea. without turbo size.

you will only do this and never repost about it.
ditch the clutch. put in lower compression pistons, more boost, and get it tuned.

grumblemarc

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#1 "Turbo at 8 PSI" doesn't mean a thing. Where did you get this magical PSI number? Your horsepower goal is what counts. I can tell you have done little, to NO, research. Don't tell me you have.
#2 B-series can handle 300hp in stock form so building the block's almost unnecessary which such low horsepower goals. So are cams and cam gears. If you boost, which I doubt, you're going to need to get that upgraded clutch. Also set aside about $500 for a really good tune because I NEVER hear anyone EVER mention anything about a tune when they ask questions like this. That's how I know you didn't do much research.
#3 Why would the compression ratio be higher?

bunkrd you

I planned on doing a t3/t4 jdm turbo kit as seen here: http://compare.ebay.com/like/1403356...=sbar&_lwgsi=y

also I understand your criticism, but help in any direction would be great. I am going to drive my car as my dd and build the motor until something major goes out on my current motor so I do have time and a decent budget to work with. I already was planning on getting it dyno tuned because I know if you don't do it right then there is no point to even start the build in the first place. I just would like to know which route I should go and where to start. As for lowering the compression to support more boost, which set of pistons and rods would be a good idea to look into. As for the gears and crank shaft, should I just toss that idea out the window or not? Like I said I would appreciate any help I'm not used to working on imports because previously I have owned 4x4's.

bunkrd you

so realistically if I decided to do the clutch turbo and a good tune where could I expect to see the hp

Wrona

jdm turbo kit... from ebay.. yep u know nothing

bunkrd you

not that specific kit. It is down the road thats just what a quick google search pulled up. Anyways, without just straight bashing could you rather point me in a better direction?

Wrona

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/

bunkrd you

as for mounts I was looking here

http://www.swapshopracing.com/contents/en-us/d675.html

bunkrd you

okay so for turbo would a to4e 46 trim work well in a street application? If so how much boost would be ideal for daily driver/ street applications.

or a t3 76 trim turbo.

Red_Army

we have a whole section for forced induction. i know its hard to find but keep scrolling down in the main forum you'll find it. ask your silly questions there.

these are all open ended and different by person.
some like 15-20, others like 10-12. but psi doesn't mean a damn til you get the turbo. 10 on small turbo is different from 10 on a large turbo.

ebay turbo parts? safe.

hyperblu

generally, smaller trim is better for street applications. Quicker spool up and power on demand, but you're limited to how much you can push. I personally wouldnt touch ebay setups or no name for that matter with a stick.. There is a book in .pdf format that someone showed me on supraforums that really helped me understand the basics and more complex applications, however I cant quite remember the name... A couple of known names are garrett and turbonetics... Both quality turbos...

bunkrd you

i was looking at turbonetics like this one for the 46 trim

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...ducts_id=75420

as for the other motor work what would you guys recommend other then the stage 2 clutch/fly wheel, or would you rather run stage 3. I know stage 2 would usually suffice in a fairly low hp application but would it be worth it or just straight overkill?

bunkrd you

so on a smaller turbo like the 46 trim would say 10-12 psi be a good reference point to reach my goals? I did look into a lot of the forced intro and read up on a lot of the turbo links but not a lot of people building b16's have the same goals as myself.

hyperblu

yes, the .63 A/R would be better for a street application

bunkrd you

okay. So it looks like I'm pretty set on the turbo then, but would just replacing the pistons and rods for lower compression be ample enough to reach 250 hp?

grumblemarc

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You obviously didn't read a thing I said. A stock b16 shouldn't need any internals upgraded to make the power you want to make. This project i going to be major fail because you just don't want to do the needed research. Asking US how to do it is NOT that research. Sorry to say.

Ask to have this thread moved to Forced Induction.

grumblemarc

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Oh. Why do people think JDM is actually some kind of name brand? I keep picturing an old cartoon factory that has JDM up in big letters on the building instead of ACME.

bunkrd you

so basically what im getting is

stock internals
headers
full exhaust
to4e 46 trim turbo
stage 2 clutch


and a damn good tune. from my research if i just save the money on things like valves pistons cam gears ect.

Lastly would new injectors be a good investment as well such as jdm injectors found here

http://www.jdmpartswholesale.com/pro...-civic-b16-d16

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Headers? OMG. RESEARCH!!! Do it NOW!!!

And WTF are JDM injectors?

grumblemarc

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Better yet, click the link on my sig. "How to turbocharge your Civic."

bunkrd you

never mind thats a good read. So basically new fuel pump, injectors, and turbo is all i need other then the clutch. In your write up, one step is removing the plate that shows the flywheel, would that be a good time to change the clutch?

TEGGYRR

Lol this thread is full of fails on behalf of O.P. Jdm injectors and Turbos, of eBay? Haha. Someone should steer clear of Honda tuning.

grumblemarc

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That's not MY writeup. Change the clutch anytime you want.