baulum

Hi,i want to know what will be the best vtec point for my b16a2?I'm installing a set of buddyclub spec 3 cams with all neccessary parts and the vtec point should be adjusted.So can anyone help me in setting the vtec.Actually i'm not using a vtec controller but will need to order a chip.I need to know all specs to be ordered.any help?

Mikes2000civicsi

go tune it...buy a vtec controller..let the tunners do the rest

black_EM1

Actually, get a tunable ECU, i.e. Hondata, Crome, etc. And then get it tuned for best results.

HarfordCTR

Im gonna say that that cam hits very nice around 5900 or 6000. As long as you have a built valvetrain that can handle 9000 rpm

baulum

i'll look for a vtec contoller then.I'll use dual valve springs(Buddyclub) and chrome steel retainers(KMS).Cam gears also are bought from Buddyclub,i'll buy CTR pistons next week.So can you guess how much Hp can i gainwith all these mods?If i bought a chip from xenocron accroding to my specs and get a vtec controller,good?

pimpinblackcivic

listen to the good advice given, don't get a chip as this won't give you the best results for the mods

994door

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when you get it tuned the vtec crossover will be done on the ecu, no need for a vtec controller.

gibsanez

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You should have clarified and said "don't get a generic Ebay chip", because chipping the ecu and having it dyno tuned will be best.

You're correct in saying don't buy a generic chip, I just don't want him to think that chipping your ecu is bad

pimpinblackcivic

yes....generic chips suck donkey dick

posHonda

Get something tunable (neptune, hondata, etc.) and throw it on the dyno.

1d10t

CTR pistons? Good luck. For your info B16b blocks are different than B16a blocks. Deck height is different. B16b blocks are basically destroked b18 blocks. I have BC spec 4 cams coming in @ 6000. Very smooth. Do not use Egay chips

gibsanez

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So what about the deck height makes CTR pistons un-useable?

1d10t

they stick out of a b16a block about .014".

gibsanez

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Bah, open up the combustion chambers

baulum

I'm buying the b16b piston only for the purpose of obtaining a higher C/R.By the way,i've already shaved the head by 0.20''.According to the spec 3 cams,C/R should be increased.Will the b16b piston be good for my goal?

baulum

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when you get it tuned the vtec crossover will be done on the ecu, no need for a vtec controller.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually in my country we do not have dyno.So what should i buy,a chip by Xenocron,hondata or get a vtec controller attach to my stock ecu?(Ecu was converted to m/t,jdm p30)

pimpinblackcivic

i personally wouldnt bother then - save your money and become the first dyno shop!

baulum

Anyway,i think i should buy a vtec controller.Thanks for your suggestions.

baulum

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A b16b piston bore and stroke are same as a b16a piston.Only C/R is different,b16a2;10:4:1,b16b:10:8:1.It'll fit perfectly the b16a2 block.Installing an aggressive camshaft requires a higher C/R.

1d10t

bore and stroke yes, its a 1.6. but the blocks are different. Youll see

BryanM.

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Read this one time in Sport Compact Car Magazine but I have never done it. The person asked pretty much the same question but you'll need a VTEC controller.

Went something like this: First, get the car on a dyno. Next, set the VTEC controller to a point so high that the motor won't spin that far (like 10,000rpm) thus not engaging VTEC. Do a dyno pull and print out the results. Then set the controller to something low, like 3500rpm, and do another pull and print results. Over lay the two graphs and set the VTEC point to where the HP curve of the first graph intersects with the curve of the second.

illusive

CTR Pistons work just fine in a B16 block & Head setup. I would personally go with a chipped ECU on crome pro...but if you have no one thats running it or chips it doing it the old school way VAFC works as well. Since you will be able to change vtec crossover at your finger tips play with it see what you think makes the best power and smoothest crossover granted a butt dyno will only tell you so much. GL

baulum

I'll look either a VAFC or buddyclub controller.You are sure that i won't have problem using the b16b piston?

illusive

I am sure....I am running a B16 with CTRs and Skunk 2 Stage 2s. No problems at all.....runs like a champ and pulls strong. Do some searching there are lots of B16s with CTRs

L0VL'ee_Mrs'Lude

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