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Old 11-30-2004, 04:26 PM
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Hey guys so when i painted my valve cover a while ago i stupidly overtightened the bolts, and now the two clostest to the windshield are broken, the bolts broke right where the threads start, so i have no idea how to get the bottom part out...anyone have any ideas?
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Default Re: Valve Bolt broke :/ (userdead626)

only thing i can suggest is one of those reverse drillbits(screw-out at sears). get a small one so you don't ruin the thread of the head

then...get a torque wrench!!! i learned the hard way too
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Default Re: Valve Bolt broke :/ (userdead626)

same thing happened to me, only for me it was only one. I want to know hot to fix it too, anyone know?
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Default Re: Valve Bolt broke :/ (userdead626)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by userdead626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys so when i painted my valve cover a while ago i stupidly overtightened the bolts, and now the two clostest to the windshield are broken, the bolts broke right where the threads start, so i have no idea how to get the bottom part out...anyone have any ideas?</TD></TR></TABLE>
take the valve cover off and you will see how to fix it, the cover bolts are actually only the top of a much longer stud that goes into the head.
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i took it apart, but i dont understand what your saying
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What did you take apart? Remove the valve cover and replace the stud.
Old 12-02-2004, 12:42 PM
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Some of them aren't studded...

What motor/car/year is this?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by userdead626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i took it apart, but i dont understand what your saying</TD></TR></TABLE>you didnt take it apart then, its real simple.



see #20? you broke the TOP of that off (above the line next to the number). you can put a wrench on the big hex'd part (below the line) of it to take it out.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see #20? you broke the TOP of that off. you can put a wrench on the big hex'd part of it to take it out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats great, but if he has a D16 then its just a hole for the bolt. If he broke the bolt in the hole then he needs an EZ out
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats great, but if he has a D16 then its just a hole for the bolt. If he broke the bolt in the hole then he needs an EZ out</TD></TR></TABLE>
stupid d series engines *mad*

forgot about that, lets find out what engine he has now lol
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haha sure enough d16y8, its completely broken off, but thankyou very much for that diagram everyone was tellin me how easy it was to take it out with a wrench, and now i feel like im not quite as stupid. So how exactly dose this ez out work?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by userdead626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha sure enough d16y8, its completely broken off, but thankyou very much for that diagram everyone was tellin me how easy it was to take it out with a wrench, and now i feel like im not quite as stupid. So how exactly dose this ez out work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You drill a small hole in the middle of the bolt, then you insert a threaded bit into the hole and back the bolt out
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You drill a small hole in the middle of the bolt, then you insert a threaded bit into the hole and back the bolt out</TD></TR></TABLE>
. . . except it breaks off in the stud as you are trying to extract it, and no drill bit available to a mere human will be able to drill it out because that SOB is so hard.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
. . . except it breaks off in the stud as you are trying to extract it, and no drill bit available to a mere human will be able to drill it out because that SOB is so hard.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey I got it to work the first time!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hey I got it to work the first time!</TD></TR></TABLE>
You should play the lottery.

BTW userdead626, when you replace the stud, make sure not to overtighten the new one. Valve cover bolts/nuts require ONLY 7 lb-ft of torque. People frequently overtighten them and snap them off as a result.
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Yeah unfortuantly as you can tell i found that out the wrong way, i went out and bought a handy-dandy tork wrench and fixed the front two ones. So you guys think i could drill out the bolts, or would i just make more of a mess? cuz eather way ima haveta to do something i think just dont know what
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lemme be the first to say dont drive around too long if any with the 2 broken and your cover not sealed correctly on your head. I did the same thing you did, and my car felt horrible. There was such a loss in compression it was sad.

I went to my gf's dad whos a machinist at a shop and he was able to drill a tiny, i mean tiny hole in the center of the screw and back it out with an EZ out like everyone else said. Take it very slow but push down semi hard on the drillbit and it should work its way out. try to set magnets around the area your drilling to avoid getting chunks of metal in your head.

thats all i can remember...dont over tighten next time! but im sure you know that now.

gl man
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is there enuff room to cut a slot? then you would use a screwdriver to get it out.
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nope its a very small space, im jsut worried that i would **** something up
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if you use the magnet to not let any shavings go in your head, and take it nice and slow but firm...youll be fine.

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use a powerful drill too...like a dewalt 24v or better. thats what i used and it had enough lowend torque to get er' done!
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Worst case scenario you have to drill out the stud and then helicoil it and its fixed.
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a sharpened centre punch sometimes can do it
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just take off your valve cover,
that bolt you broke, has ANOTHER head to it, lower down on the bolt, that you can use a 12mm wrench to remove it,

just go to honda and buy a new one.

simple as that.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If he broke the bolt in the hole then he needs an EZ out</TD></TR></TABLE>
that is teh ghey
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